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[RPPB]

AC's first daily 767-300ER has arrived, about 75 minutes late...

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[Mike K.]

Nice!

[G-Man]

That is awesome. Any idea how full it was?

[Citified.ca]

Sunwing to offer vacation packages to Puerto Vallarta from Victoria for the first time

Toronto, ON – June 28, 2017

 

Sunwing is pleased to announce it will be offering convenient Saturday departures from December 16, 2017 until April 7, 2018 to the popular Mexican destination of Puerto Vallarta, in addition to its regular Los Cabos service which will operate this winter on Sundays from December 17, 2017 through April 8, 2018. Situated on the Pacific Coast, Puerto Vallarta offers broad sandy beaches, excellent sport fishing and plentiful water sports together with a pristine old town to explore.

 

President of Tour Operations, Andrew Dawson, welcomed the news. “We’re very excited to be adding vacation packages to Puerto Vallarta from Victoria this coming winter. Puerto Vallarta has much to offer travellers of all ages. We’re sure that this new destination will be well received.”

 

Geoff Dickson, Victoria Airport Authority President and CEO, also commented on the news. “We’re pleased to welcome Sunwing back to Victoria next winter.  Sun destinations like Puerto Vallarta and Los Cabos continue to be very popular with our community, and non-stop service provides great convenience for travellers to enjoy their vacations sooner.”

 

Sunwing boasts a wide range of accommodation packages in Puerto Vallarta. A favourite among families and couples, Riu Jalisco is situated on the soft sands of Playa de Flamingos in Nuevo Vallarta and features a wide variety of complimentary land and watersports including shuffleboard, kayaking, and catamaran sailing. Younger guests can enjoy crafts and activities at the complimentary RiuLand Kids’ Club, while the children’s swimming pool provides a safe place to splash around.

 

Travellers seeking a luxurious getaway can opt for the all inclusive Hilton Puerto Vallarta. This repeat AAA Four Diamond award-winning hotel is situated nearby Puerto Vallarta’s vibrant downtown and Malecon. Featuring a stunning rooftop infinity pool commanding sweeping views of Banderas Bay, it also offers a world-class Ki Spa, and varied dining options.

All Sunwing packages to Puerto Vallarta and Los Cabos from Victoria include return flights operated by Viva Aerobus. Once on board, passengers can sit back and relax with quality inflight service that includes complimentary drinks including soda, water, coffee or tea and a snack. Light meal options and alcoholic beverages are also available for purchase.

 

About Sunwing

As Canada’s #1 to the sun and North America’s largest vertically integrated travel company, Sunwing has more flights to the south than any other leisure carrier with convenient direct service from over 35 airports across Canada to over 50 popular sun destinations. This scale enables Sunwing to negotiate the best deals and exclusive offers at all of the top-rated resorts across the Caribbean, Mexico, and Central America. All packages also include return flights, local transfers and the services of a local Sunwing Experiences representative once in destination. Travellers can also take advantage of a carefully selected range of Sunwing Experiences day tours and excursions that are available for pre-purchase in Canadian dollars.

[shoeflack]

So Sunwing replaces their Huatulco service with Puerto Vallarta. That makes three airlines now running that route out of YYJ.

[Nparker]

So Sunwing replaces their Huatulco service with Puerto Vallarta...

That's a bit of a shame since Huatulco is a much nice area, IMO.

[spanky123]

^ Wouldn't be surprised if this wasn't related to distance and refueling requirements. 

 

http://www.cbc.ca/ne...ravel-1.4143047

[vortoozo]

Both Sunwing and Transat operated their own aircraft to YYJ last season. Neither contracted work to another carrier.

This coming season, it looks like Sunwing will be chartering a Mexican carrier for their YYJ operations.

[Mike K.]

Interesting. Do you know who the carrier is?

[VicHockeyFan]

Interesting. Do you know who the carrier is?

 

Viva Aerobus

Edited by VicHockeyFan, 29 June 2017 - 10:00 AM.

[VicHockeyFan]

Audio from the airport’s traffic control tower, which was archived online and reviewed by The Times, reveals more of how the incident unfolded as the plane approached:

 

Air Canada pilot: Tower Air Canada 759 I can see lights on the runway there. Can you confirm we’re clear to land?

Control tower: Air Canada 759 confirmed cleared to land on 28-right. There is no one on 28-right but you.

Air Canada pilot: OK, Air Canada 759

Unknown: Where is this guy going? He’s on the taxiway!

Control tower: Air Canada, go around.

The FAA said the air traffic controller told the Air Canada jet to circle around and make another approach.

Air Canada pilot: Going around. Air Canada 759.

Control tower: Air Canada, it looks like you were lined up for Charlie there. Fly heading 280. Climb maintain 3,000.

Air Canada pilot: Heading 2-8-0. 3,000. Air Canada 759.

United pilot: United One, Air Canada flew directly over us.

Control tower: Yeah, I saw that guys.

The aircraft then landed at the airport without incident at 12:11 a.m. Saturday, about 50 minutes later than scheduled, according to the online flight path.

 

http://www.latimes.c...0710-story.html

 

Yikes.

 

Taxiway Charlie seems to be above the top left-right runway there, the one labelled 28R.  Hard to know how you'd mistake a taxiway for a runway, surely they have very different lights.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Philadelphia International Airport. The white lighting of the 3 runways is clearly visible, while the taxiways are lit in blue.

 

 

Taxiway Edge Lights. Taxiway edge lights are used to outline the edges of taxiways during periods of darkness or restricted visibility conditions. These fixtures emit blue light.

NOTE-
At most major airports these lights have variable intensity settings and may be adjusted at pilot request or when deemed necessary by the controller.

Taxiway Centreline Lights. Taxiway centreline lights are used to facilitate ground traffic under low visibility conditions. They are located along the taxiway centreline in a straight line on straight portions, on the centreline of curved portions, and along designated taxiing paths in portions of runways, ramp, and apron areas. Taxiway centreline lights are steady burning and emit green light.

Clearance Bar Lights. Clearance bar lights are installed at holding positions on taxiways in order to increase the conspicuity of the holding position in low visibility conditions. They may also be installed to indicate the location of an intersecting taxiway during periods of darkness. Clearance bars consist of three in-pavement steady-burning yellow lights.

Runway Guard Lights. Runway guard lights are installed at taxiway/runway intersections. They are primarily used to enhance the conspicuity of taxiway/runway intersections during low visibility conditions, but may be used in all weather conditions. Runway guard lights consist of either a pair of elevated flashing yellow lights installed on either side of the taxiway, or a row of in-pavement yellow lights installed across the entire taxiway, at the runway holding position marking.

NOTE-
Some airports may have a row of three or five in-pavement yellow lights installed at taxiway/runway intersections.

Stop Bar Lights. Stop bar lights, when installed, are used to confirm the ATC clearance to enter or cross the active runway in low visibility conditions (below 1,200 ft Runway Visual Range). A stop bar consists of a row of red, unidirectional, steady-burning in-pavement lights installed across the entire taxiway at the runway holding position, and elevated steady-burning red lights on each side. A controlled stop bar is operated in conjunction with the taxiway centreline lead-on lights which extend from the stop bar toward the runway. Following the ATC clearance to proceed, the stop bar is turned off and the lead-on lights are turned on. The stop bar and lead-on lights are automatically reset by a sensor or backup timer.

CAUTION-
Pilots should never cross a red illuminated stop bar, even if an ATC clearance has been given to proceed onto or across the runway.

 

http://www.pilotfrie...ay_markings.htm

Edited by VicHockeyFan, 11 July 2017 - 03:45 PM.

[VicHockeyFan]

Control tower: Air Canada 759 confirmed cleared to land on 28-right. There is no one on 28-right but you.

Air Canada pilot: OK, Air Canada 759

Unknown: Where is this guy going? He’s on the taxiway!

....

 

United pilot: United One, Air Canada flew directly over us.

Control tower: Yeah, I saw that guys.

 

 

Man, I wonder if he touched down, or was very close to touchdown.  "He's on the taxiway!" does not sound very good.

 

Now, I'm not a pilot, but I'd guess the 4 aircraft on the taxiway were down near the end where AC came in.  And likely facing AC directly.  As they would be ready to enter the runway after AC, then take off the same direction AC came in.  So AC would likely have gone right over them all.   At a scary low altitude.

Edited by VicHockeyFan, 11 July 2017 - 03:51 PM.

[LJ]

One of the aircraft on the ground would have been perpendicular to him, the others would be facing him, their landing lights would be shut off all he would see would be nav lights and anti collision beacons. There is no way he could confuse the lights of the taxiway with the runway lighting system including the PAPI's, centerline lighting, lead in lights, touchdown zone lights. If he even glanced at his instruments he would have seen immediately that he was off centerline.

 

The union will play this as a fatigue issue as it was after 3am Toronto time where they had departed from.

 

He did not touch down on the taxiway, he was at least 100' above the first aircraft and climbing.

[VicHockeyFan]

One of the aircraft on the ground would have been perpendicular to him, the others would be facing him, their landing lights would be shut off all he would see would be nav lights and anti collision beacons. There is no way he could confuse the lights of the taxiway with the runway lighting system including the PAPI's, centerline lighting, lead in lights, touchdown zone lights. If he even glanced at his instruments he would have seen immediately that he was off centerline.

 

The union will play this as a fatigue issue as it was after 3am Toronto time where they had departed from.

 

He did not touch down on the taxiway, he was at least 100' above the first aircraft and climbing.

 

The "tracker beam" thing (localizer?) they ride in on, would it be sensitive enough to know he's 100 yards off course, to the right?

 

Ya, that's exactly the thing about a runway, it has all those lead-in lights.  Taxiways have none.

Edited by VicHockeyFan, 11 July 2017 - 08:30 PM.

[VicHockeyFan]

Here's a jet going into SFO 28R at night.  Skip to 3:40 to see the runway lights.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3LTYeZrzH8

Edited by VicHockeyFan, 11 July 2017 - 09:17 PM.

[HB]

just watch Chek News at 1030 they just showed what happened on the 10pm new and with voice transmissions...better than trying to figure it out here. The 4 other airliners lined up on the taxiway saw him coming in at them and told the tower who then told AC to fly around for another try.

[North Shore]

To the best of my knowledge, they were on a Visual (looking out of the window, not following instruments on the dash) approach to the runway.  Smart money would have backed that up with an instrument approach, though..

If it was a 3am departure, I suspect that fatigue will come out as a factor here...

[LJ]

It was a 3am arrival. They left YYZ in the evening.

[LJ]

The "tracker beam" thing (localizer?) they ride in on, would it be sensitive enough to know he's 100 yards off course, to the right?

 

 

 

Yes.

[Bingo]

Don't try this in Saint Martins.

Woman killed by jet engine blast.

http://www.foxnews.c...nearby-jet.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV21f1MZ5iU

Edited by Bingo, 13 July 2017 - 10:01 AM.