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#1201 malahatdrive

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Posted 21 September 2016 - 09:01 AM

I hope it works. I do think for it to be really successfully we would need to have those bus lanes up and running completely between downtown and at least McKenzie.

 

But hey - Langford runs its own free Trolley bus system already and that seems to work



#1202 Bingo

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Posted 21 September 2016 - 10:23 AM

I predict fail, I'm afraid.  Private transit does not exist alongside public in North America in many jurisdictions, and certainly not in West Shore and Victoria.

 

I agree. If the idea had any merit BC Transit would be doing it.

All Langford will be doing is running their service on some conjested alternate route with all the other traffic once work on the interchange begins.

The best alternative is to run SOMETHING on the E&N tracks where you are not competing with other vehicles.


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#1203 sdwright.vic

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Posted 21 September 2016 - 12:04 PM

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#1204 On the Level

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Posted 21 September 2016 - 12:21 PM

I predict fail, I'm afraid. Private transit does not exist alongside public in North America in many jurisdictions, and certainly not in West Shore and Victoria.


It's definitely a long shot, but it's only $15 more a month, will be a comfortable coach and won't be stuck pulling in and out of traffic at every bus stop.

The whole "buses for everything" mentality is so 1950s. Someone needs to get on with the E&N before Esquimalt kills it.
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#1205 Bingo

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Posted 21 September 2016 - 02:20 PM

The whole "buses for everything" mentality is so 1950s. Someone needs to get on with the E&N before Esquimalt kills it.

Most VVer's agree (87%) with getting on with the E&N, and I will be on the first trip along with my buddy VHF.


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#1206 LJ

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Posted 21 September 2016 - 07:31 PM

Agreed 100%.  I hope it works, it just looks tough.  Hey, I'd love the fact that it's the same driver every time I get on, he knows my name, I know his, and I get to know every passenger onboard, that would be a great commute.  A real sense of community.  But can we find 50 people that all agree on one set in time, and (I presume) one out time, out of downtown, and are willing to pay the $100?  I'm not sure.  Can we find an employer willing to pay the $100 per passenger.... Hmm, just maybe, right?

Isn't this just like the West Coast Express train service in Vancouver? Except of course this is much cheaper and not financed by BC Transit. I would use it, if I had to commute.


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Posted 25 September 2016 - 07:42 AM

I think this sounds nice. I mean wifi, coffee and a bathroom? And only a 15 dollar premium? I am sure that there are 50 people that would choose this. That said I would bet that it will be people that currently take the bus at that time or near it and will think that this is a better value.


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Posted 25 September 2016 - 07:50 AM

I think this sounds nice. I mean wifi, coffee and a bathroom? And only a 15 dollar premium? I am sure that there are 50 people that would choose this. That said I would bet that it will be people that currently take the bus at that time or near it and will think that this is a better value.

 

I think we could find 50 people, for sure.  I think it becomes tougher when we try to find the same 50 people that like the in time, and the return time.  If there is a return, as I have not really read that yet anywhere.  It has never been made clear that the $100 or $120 is a return fare.  

 

It sounds great, doing work or reading the paper on your way in.  But you can read the paper on the current choice of buses, and are people (for example government managers) really doing work on the way to work, if they have an 8-hour shift in town too?   

 

Let's run the numbers.

 

Full bus means $5000 or more in fares per month.  OK, that pays the driver salary.  M-F, it's really just one almost full-time driver.  Split-shift, or Wilson's figures out a way for a different return driver from among their in-town crew.

 

Langford says they will pay up to $60,000 per year subsidy.  I'm not sure if that pays for a bus time/wear/insurance/fuel.  Probably not.  Advertising will pay for some of the cost.



#1209 Bingo

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Posted 25 September 2016 - 11:44 AM

I think this sounds nice. I mean wifi, coffee and a bathroom? And only a 15 dollar premium? I am sure that there are 50 people that would choose this. 

 

Have you ever used one of those bathrooms at the back of the bus at the end of the day when it's all backed up.

I can think of 50 people on this forum that would not like that.


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Posted 26 September 2016 - 06:38 AM

That happens on long tours. Not sure how much it would happen on a local Wilsons bus that never travels for more than 45 minutes before end of line.
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