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[G-Man]

Didn't Vancouver just go to $4 / HR?

I agree up the cost of meter spots to encourage parkade use. Still I know lots of people in my workplace that would rather go out and feed the meter 6 times a day than pay an equal or lessor amount to park in a garage. Seems strange...

[aastra]

Downtown is very walkable. We know this because hardly anybody wants to walk a couple of blocks from parking spot to destination.

Just like downtown is very liveable because hardly anybody lives there.

[Holden West]

Slate.com on [url=http://www.slate.com/id/2164257/:71fae]the high cost of free parking[/url:71fae].

[VicHockeyFan]

Downtown is very walkable. We know this because hardly anybody wants to walk a couple of blocks from parking spot to destination.

Just like downtown is very liveable because hardly anybody lives there.

Exactly.

[Icebergalley]

I walked from Courtney to Yates via a laneway and the not so mid walk passageways..

A good thing to do when one gets fed up with waiting for the traffic lights to change...

[Holden West]

Installation of parking meters, 1947.

[G-Man]

Strange no 60 year celebration planned...

[VicHockeyFan]

Some time mid-Sunday afternoon just this week, some ass-clown damaged about 3 parking meters in the 700-blk Herald, and removed at least 6 more. I saw the original carnage, then an hour later the City was on-scened cleaning up, and presumably looking for the addl. missing ones. The broken ones seemed to be perhaps sledgehammered open while still on the post, the missing ones were cleanly cut off. Seems like a lot of work for some pocket-change.

[Icebergalley]

One can get "free" 1.5 hr parking in the 1000 block of Pandora and possibly many others on the edges of Downtown as meter heads appear and disappear...

[ressen]

This is what we need in Victoria.

[G-Man]

Wow can you say Jetsons!

[Galvanized]

^^If we ever get flying cars you could fly directly into your parking level just like going into a beehive!

[Holden West]

I love those buildings. Or maybe I'm just a [url=http://music.ent.tom.com/img/assets/1/20411hy569.jpg:625b8]Wilco[/url:625b8] fan.

[Baro]

Woah! 16 floors of above ground parking?! So ugly, yet so cool at the same time. Realy it does look like it's ment for flying cars. You have to look closely to see the railings, and they look pretty small. I wonder how many people have driven off...

Where is that building and what's it called? I'd love to read up on it. Looks like.. chicago is my guess?

[Holden West]

[url=http://www.jetsetmodern.com/marinacity.htm:0ea59]Marina City[/url:0ea59] in Chicago.

I wonder how many people have driven off...

It's happened...[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UYXfQk9XUk:0ea59]once[/url:0ea59] or [url=http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/98245,CST-NWS-car16.article:0ea59]twice[/url:0ea59]

[url=http://www.suntimes.com/98613,cst-gall-car101606.photogallery:0ea59]More stunt pics[/url:0ea59]

[Ms. B. Havin]

Interesting article in MSN Money, [url=http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/News/ThePriciestPlacestoPark.aspx:1ea00]The priciest places to park[/url:1ea00]. The article focus is on the US, but it's based on a Collier's International report, available in PDF, [url=http://www.colliers.com/Content/Repositories/Base/Corporate/English/Market_Report_Corporate/PDFs/ColliersParkingRateSurvey2006.pdf:1ea00]Colliers Parking Rate Survey 2006[/url:1ea00], which does include Canada -- even Victoria!

In the Central Business District (CBD) survey (Canada) on daily rates, Victoria falls in at $10 median rate (see p.2). This compares to a high of $19 for Calgary, $4 for Saskatoon. On the monthly rate (unreserved), Victoria clocks in at $120 median, compared to $375 for Calgary and $107 for Saskatoon. (Monthly reserved is higher -- $455 for Toronto, for eg.)

An weird statistic is this one: both Victoria's and Saskatoon's garages all have waiting lists (100% compared to Calgary's 25%), and the wait time for a spot is 5 and 6 months, respectively (but also 6 months in Calgary, which has 0% waitlist). Halifax's garages are 75% waitlisted, with a 24 (in words: twenty-four!) month wait... :shock:

Parking availability in Victoria is ranked as "fair" (compared to the only other category that showed up, "limited," given to Calgary, but also Saskatoon), and there are no new garages planned.

The Canadian monthly average unreserved parking rate (June 06) is $194, and Victoria is well below that, at $120. Compare that to the world rate, where London (not Britain) tops the list at a whopping US$898 for the West End and US$896 for The City. Ouch. Toronto (the only Canadian city to make that list) is a bargain at US$268. Victoria is really cheap, by comparison.

[VicHockeyFan]

Interesting article in MSN Money, The priciest places to park[/url:729c3]. The article focus is on the US, but it's based on a Collier's International report, available in PDF, [url=http://www.colliers.com/Content/Repositories/Base/Corporate/English/Market_Report_Corporate/PDFs/ColliersParkingRateSurvey2006.pdf:729c3]Colliers Parking Rate Survey 2006[/url:729c3], which does include Canada -- even Victoria!

In the Central Business District (CBD) survey (Canada) on daily rates, Victoria falls in at $10 median rate (see p.2). This compares to a high of $19 for Calgary, $4 for Saskatoon. On the monthly rate (unreserved), Victoria clocks in at $120 median, compared to $375 for Calgary and $107 for Saskatoon. (Monthly reserved is higher -- $455 for Toronto, for eg.)

An weird statistic is this one: both Victoria's and Saskatoon's garages all have waiting lists (100% compared to Calgary's 25%), and the wait time for a spot is 5 and 6 months, respectively (but also 6 months in Calgary, which has 0% waitlist). Halifax's garages are 75% waitlisted, with a 24 (in words: twenty-four!) month wait... :shock:

Parking availability in Victoria is ranked as "fair" (compared to the only other category that showed up, "limited," given to Calgary, but also Saskatoon), and there are no new garages planned.

The Canadian monthly average unreserved parking rate (June 06) is $194, and Victoria is well below that, at $120. Compare that to the world rate, where London (not Britain) tops the list at a whopping US$898 for the West End and US$896 for The City. Ouch. Toronto (the only Canadian city to make that list) is a bargain at US$268. Victoria is really cheap, by comparison.

The way around tha parking issue is easy. Buy one of these as your personal vehicle, then you get the guy that parks on top of you to pay 90% of the monthly fee. NOTE: your partner will need to start work later, and end earlier than you do every day.



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[Holden West]

That's even more brilliant than your solar heated apartment set up. It would be especially economical on the ferries.

Colliers has a global report too. We have it pretty good:

Global

Parking rates in cities around the world make even the most expensive U.S and Canadian cities seem reasonable.

Typical parking rates (Daily / Monthly, in U.S. dollars):

* London, West End -- $58.90 per day / $898.00 per month
* London, City -- $55.20 per day / $896.00 per month
* Tokyo -- $84.20 per day / $702.00 per month
* Hong Kong -- $25.75 per day / $682.00 per month
* Midtown Manhattan -- $40 per day / $574.00 per month
* Moscow -- $29.60 per day / $531.00 per month
* Sydney -- $38.25 per day / $488.00 per month
* Paris -- $31.75 per day / $317.50 per month
* Munich -- $19.05 per day / $295.00 per month
* Frankfurt -- $34.30 per day / $278.00 per month
* Toronto-- $17.85 per day / $268.00 per month

http://www.colliers.... ... ingRelease

[Caramia]

I'd be more interested in seeing similar sized/ranked cities to Victoria. How do we compare to Halifax for instance?

[G-Man]

I would bet it is more expensive than Halifax. I mean parking should be more expensive in Victoria than Halifax because our land prices are higher. A proper comparison would have to take both land prices and size into account.