The nuisance grafitti / tagging thread
#1
Posted 09 October 2009 - 02:56 PM
I'm on a crusade*, to get rid of it. I CRUSADE I tell ya!
* minus the blood and fighting.
#2
Posted 09 October 2009 - 03:58 PM
#3
Posted 09 October 2009 - 05:48 PM
#4
Posted 10 October 2009 - 11:36 AM
#5
Posted 13 October 2009 - 06:37 PM
It adds a great feel to our neighborhoods and is actually proven to reduce tagging.
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#6
Posted 19 October 2009 - 09:04 AM
#7
Posted 19 October 2009 - 09:22 AM
#8
Posted 19 October 2009 - 10:58 AM
Oscar Wilde (1854 - 1900), The Picture of Dorian Gray, 1891
#9
Posted 19 October 2009 - 01:05 PM
LANGFORD REPORTS PROGRESS IN GRAFFITI BATTLE
http://www.cfax1070....hp?newsId=10984
Oct 19, 2009
A PROLIFIC GRAFFITTI VANDAL HAS AGREED TO MAKE RESTITUTION TO THE CITY OF LANGFORD, IN THE AMOUNT OF MORE THAN SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS.
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#10
Posted 20 October 2009 - 04:33 AM
Even Mother Nature hates graffiti.
Morning sun shining on the windows of The Yates Centre on the other side of the parking lot created reflections which projected onto this wall.
This is the west wall of Sugar.
#11
Posted 20 October 2009 - 05:48 AM
The Writing is on the Wall
Posted By: Anna Kemp
10/14/2009 8:00 AM
http://www.mondaymag...-is-on-the-wall
Anti-Graffiti Symposium comes to Victoria
Graffiti is everywhere. All over Victoria, and in cities and towns around the world, blank walls have become covered with the colourful graphics of taggers. And wherever there are taggers—named for their stylized signatures known as tags—someone has the job of removing their work.
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#12
Posted 20 October 2009 - 06:43 AM
-City of Victoria website, 2009
#13
Posted 20 October 2009 - 06:58 AM
If Banksy himself decorated a wall in Victoria it would be painted over 24 hours later by these philistines.
Unfortunately, many of these taggers think they are Bansky. If Bansky defaces^H^H^H^H^H decorates your property without your permission he is just as guilty as some punk ass kid, and should expect his "work" to be painted over. Sorry, but its hard to believe that anyone could consider destroying someone else's property an acceptable means of expression. It certainly is an act of hubris unilaterally deciding that how you decorate a wall is better than what the owner of the wall was willing to put there.
#14
Posted 20 October 2009 - 08:35 AM
However, the graffiti haters got their new bylaws, and the happy relationship was severed. By the time I started managing the property, after Michael Williams death, we had 24 hours to destroy each new work or the City got on our backs. Of course this led to a serious decline in our relationship with the artists, and eventually the packed up and left. The shitty little taggers swarmed into the vacuum leaving their scrawled obscenities where once there were beautiful murals. With no weekly crews in the alley at night painting, drug use in that alley rose, and eventually we had no choice but to gate it for safety's sake.
I'm not saying we shouldn't have penalties but we've gone too far in the other direction. We've created a situation where property owners are forced to paint over murals even if they like them, unless they want to enter a formal relationship with the artists and go through the "signage" red tape which in this city is formidable. Simply allowing it to happen, and enjoying the results is off the table. And in those situations, our regulations have become the vandal - removing decoration choice from property owners as surely as graffiti artists do when they paint without permission.
Oscar Wilde (1854 - 1900), The Picture of Dorian Gray, 1891
#15
Posted 20 October 2009 - 09:03 AM
#16
Posted 20 October 2009 - 09:06 AM
#17
Posted 20 October 2009 - 09:13 AM
I'm not saying we shouldn't have penalties but we've gone too far in the other direction. We've created a situation where property owners are forced to paint over murals even if they like them, unless they want to enter a formal relationship with the artists and go through the "signage" red tape which in this city is formidable. Simply allowing it to happen, and enjoying the results is off the table. And in those situations, our regulations have become the vandal - removing decoration choice from property owners as surely as graffiti artists do when they paint without permission.
What you're saying doesn't make any sense in relation to what's quoted in the Monday Mag article, cited above:
“We have a very simple philosophy,” says Reed. “Graffiti is any writing or painting on a building that’s done without the owner’s permission. Places like Wildfire Bakery, well, that’s permitted and has nothing to do with what we do. We’re dealing with the stuff that’s on the garbage cans, stop signs and bus shelters.”
As for the "we need to practice" argument: there are many people in fields that require specialized tools who could also use the argument "we have no canvas/ no instrument/ no computer to practice on." And that doesn't even address the pseudo-oppositional politics of taggers (the anti-private property/ anti-The System stuff), which just increases social resentment of the activity.
#18
Posted 20 October 2009 - 09:15 AM
They will be expected to sanitize it if it's just random tagging. But I'm curious to see the regulation that tells owners of Wildfire Bakery or of the tatoo place at Cook & Meares that they have to paint their murals over.^ OK, I understand you now. Yes, certainly someone should not be forced to sanitize art on their building, particularly if it is in an alley.
#19
Posted 20 October 2009 - 09:56 AM
They will be expected to sanitize it if it's just random tagging. But I'm curious to see the regulation that tells owners of Wildfire Bakery or of the tatoo place at Cook & Meares that they have to paint their murals over.
If I'm not mistaken, and Caramia please correct me, some businesses use murals as a bit of an advertisement, where they would not be allowed to use a sign of that size. Two examples come to mind: The self-storage opposite the arena with it's "dog hiding bones" theme, and also Westcoast Appliances with a large mural facing south on Gorge Rd., near Jutland, nearly the same thing as there sign logo design but with no words.
#20
Posted 20 October 2009 - 10:01 AM
And in no way is crude tagging some sort of apprenticeship into mural painting. That's like saying mugging is an entry-level job on the way to becoming an investment banker. Oh, wait, actually it kinda is.
-City of Victoria website, 2009
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