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#5501 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 19 October 2017 - 09:43 AM

It all boils down to the fact that you cannot enter an intersection unless it is safe to do so, regardless of whether you have the right-of-way or not.

 

But you could say they both entered a dangerous intersection, no?  The truck for obvious reasons, but the car entered it knowing full well the light was going to be amber or red, he had flashing warning lights seconds ago to tell him that was coming. 



#5502 Mike K.

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Posted 19 October 2017 - 09:46 AM

I can see this going 50/50 thanks to the video. The guy in the truck likely panicked and just kept going. The guy in the sedan is a fool.


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#5503 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 19 October 2017 - 09:46 AM

The advance warning ambers started flashing at 1:23, the crash is not until 1:35.  The car driver knew a full 12 seconds prior that the intersection was "becoming dangerous".  If I'm not blaming him for the crash I at least need to ticket him for failing to stop on amber. 

 

A self-driving car would have never proceeded through the intersection, it was not even close.


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#5504 Rob Randall

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Posted 19 October 2017 - 10:32 AM

The left-turning truck screwed up and panicked but the other driver had plenty of warning and should have known there was potential trouble ahead. It freaks me out to see people driving past the speed limit in heavy rain. I just can't comprehend the stupidity.



#5505 Mike K.

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Posted 19 October 2017 - 10:53 AM

Oh yeah, and the stupidity was at an all-time high yesterday. People were driving like idiots, more aggressive, tailgaty, one guy was even texting as he was cruising along in a torrential downpour. Stupid stupid stupid.


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#5506 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 19 October 2017 - 10:56 AM

The left-turning truck screwed up and panicked but the other driver had plenty of warning and should have known there was potential trouble ahead. It freaks me out to see people driving past the speed limit in heavy rain. I just can't comprehend the stupidity.

 

Yup, the truck is in no danger until it turns, even if it sits 10 seconds into the red light.  Your cross traffic, still at a stop, sees you.



#5507 Rob Randall

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Posted 19 October 2017 - 10:59 AM

So how does ICBC apply blame: 60/40 or something like that?

 

I heard a stat, don't know if it's true, but I don't doubt it: in heavy rain people actually drive faster, they don't like it and want to get out of it asap, subconsciously or otherwise. 



#5508 Bingo

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Posted 19 October 2017 - 11:05 AM

Oh yeah, and the stupidity was at an all-time high yesterday. People were driving like idiots, more aggressive, tailgaty, one guy was even texting as he was cruising along in a torrential downpour. Stupid stupid stupid.

 

Lots of hydroplaning potential in those downpours and if you're texting while drinking your coffee and your vehicle needs new tires....stupid stupid stupid.


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Posted 19 October 2017 - 11:07 AM

So how does ICBC apply blame: 60/40 or something like that?

 

I heard a stat, don't know if it's true, but I don't doubt it: in heavy rain people actually drive faster, they don't like it and want to get out of it asap, subconsciously or otherwise. 

 

Probably 50/50, based on case law



#5510 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 19 October 2017 - 11:27 AM

So how does ICBC apply blame: 60/40 or something like that?

I heard a stat, don't know if it's true, but I don't doubt it: in heavy rain people actually drive faster, they don't like it and want to get out of it asap, subconsciously or otherwise.


A credible poster in FB said she was a passenger in a similar crash and it was awarded 50/50.

#5511 lanforod

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Posted 19 October 2017 - 12:29 PM

Lots of hydroplaning potential in those downpours and if you're texting while drinking your coffee and your vehicle needs new tires....stupid stupid stupid.

Driving home yesterday ( sorry, left the bike at home for once...), made me thankful I picked up some new Michelin Premier's a few weeks ago. I tried to hydroplane, and couldn't!



#5512 Lorenzo

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Posted 19 October 2017 - 02:10 PM

Exact same thing happened to me. Same road conditions. I was late on the yellow and a kid turned left in front of me. Not quite as late as that guy in the video though. I was held 25% responsible. I actually thought that was quite fair.


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#5513 sebberry

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Posted 21 October 2017 - 06:51 AM

A vehicle incident has closed McKenzie between Saanich and Quadra. 

The local constabulary is asking motorists to avoid the area of Quadra and McKenzie. 

 

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Posted Yesterday, 04:25 PM

Now this is a Go Fund Me campaign I can fully support. The fellow who was hit on Gorge Rd a few days ago has tragically died of his injuries.

 

http://www.timescolo...ries-1.23071570

 

https://www.gofundme...rana-his-family


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