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[nagel]

I think Fort has some bike stuff that reduced lanes. Certainly Pandora coming down to Cook has increased car congestion.

Fort has some lanes east of blanshard bu they've been there quite a while.

[nagel]

The Johnson Street Bridge is more conjested than ever since they removed the cycling span.

That's a construction zone so it's not as a result of "new bike lanes". They had to take roadway away for the fencing, and presumably engineering thought it was unsafe to have a second lane open up literally on the bridge, so bikes get that bit of space one way only.

[dasmo]

One would assume the core of downtown would not see a huge volume increase since it's the destination. The only count that is relevant to commute infrastructure is anything before uptown...

[rjag]

From the numbers place: https://www.crd.bc.c.../traffic-counts

Although some streets in Victoria have increased volume in cars - Government for example, lots haven't (or having shrinking volumes of cars). That includes both Blanshard and Douglas.

The streets I looked up only has data till 2012, is there anything newer?

[Coreyburger]

The streets I looked up only has data till 2012, is there anything newer?

 

I don't work there anymore, but the count schedule rotates so each street is done about once every 5 years.

[Mike K.]

From the numbers place: https://www.crd.bc.c.../traffic-counts

 

Although some streets in Victoria have increased volume in cars - Government for example, lots haven't (or having shrinking volumes of cars). That includes both Blanshard and Douglas.

 

The numbers place has five year old data for key downtown intersections (2007 and 2011).

 

The one data point that I was able to find with relatively recent numbers, which showed 2007, 2009 and 2014 was Yates at Blanshard, and the data we have shows this:

 

2007 Thursday 24: 9,352

2009 Friday 24HR: 10,377

2014 Friday 24HR: 12,097

 

Which equals a 17% increase between 2009 and 2014.

 

I'm sure there are other points with data from 2014 or 2015.

[VicHockeyFan]

Douglas Street, north of Finlayson.

 

Southbound, 8am-9am

 

Wednesday, November 21, 2007 - 1,449

Wednesday, November 7, 2012 - 1,363

 

The house earlier went from 1,191 to 1,105.

[Mike K.]

I guess the point I'm trying to make is we don't have the most recently data. Consider how much can change in only 2-3 years, so using stats from 2012 to discuss real-world traffic congestion is not really going to tell us much especially and more individuals take up living in downtown and surrounding areas while driving elsewhere for work.

[VicHockeyFan]

I guess the point I'm trying to make is we don't have the most recently data. Consider how much can change in only 2-3 years, so using stats from 2012 to discuss real-world traffic congestion is not really going to tell us much especially and more individuals take up living in downtown and surrounding areas while driving elsewhere for work.

 

And my point is what huge employers sprang up downtown in 2-3 years that might make another 200 cars come in per hour?  I can think of none.

 

Look, I'm OK with you saying there is more 9-5 traffic just about anywhere in the CRD, EXCEPT the last few blocks into downtown.

[Mike K.]

Traffic flows both ways, though. If we're saying that more people are moving into downtown Victoria, and if we agree that many people won't be employed in downtown Victoria, then we should expect more traffic leaving downtown. It's not just about inflow, it's overall congestion and traffic.

 

Vancouver has had to deal with a reverse rush hour thanks to its high concentration of downtown residences.

[VicHockeyFan]

Traffic flows both ways, though. If we're saying that more people are moving into downtown Victoria, and if we agree that many people won't be employed in downtown Victoria, then we should expect more traffic leaving downtown. It's not just about inflow, it's overall congestion and traffic.

 

Vancouver has had to deal with a reverse rush hour thanks to its high concentration of downtown residences.

 

How does outflow from downtown affect the inbound morning commute on Douglas, really?

[Mike K.]

Oh, it probably doesn't very much. But I thought we were talking about increased traffic congestion in downtown Victoria. At some point both outbound traffic to Esquimalt and inbound traffic from Sidney might end up together on Yates heading towards Wharf, is what I'm getting at.

[Bingo]

A local MLA is worried that work on the McKenzie Interchange is causing mud and silt to run into the nearby Colquitz River.

Sediment fencing is set up at the site of the McKenzie Interchange construction, but Fleming says it appeared to be breached when he was there.

http://www.iheartrad...river-1.2240261

 

[UrbanRail]

Seeing this makes me want to crap my pants. But hey its all in the name of progress.... (eyes rolling)

 

 

[Mike K.]

Ok, weirdo

[HB]

Crap your pants in happiness or some other reason?

[nagel]

Well I don't want to crap my pants but I agree with the general sentiment Urban. What a waste of space.

[VicHockeyFan]

CHEK really loved your video idea, HB.

 

What the heck are those floppy white strips in the ground at the McKenzie Interchange project?

 

 

http://www.cheknews....project-263440/

[HB]

Unreal but typical

[Bingo]

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Edited by Bingo, 13 March 2017 - 11:03 PM.