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#1 Bernard

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 11:36 AM

The rules that allow for a name of a party/slate/endorsement to go on the ballot in the local elections means that VV could endorse candidates in the 2011 local elections and have the name Vibrant Victoria appear after the candidates name on the ballot.

#2 Mike K.

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 11:46 AM

Bernard, can you provide more details? This sounds like a neat idea.

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#3 Bernard

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 12:14 PM

The relevant section of the act is below. The gist is that VV has to have 50 members in any given municipality that is endorsing someone and that has be to in place my the middle of August at the latest, ideally the end of July.

The only possible barrier is that VV would not be seen as an organization and is seen as a business and we are all participants and not members.

Ballot showing candidate endorsement by elector organization
79 (1) In order for an organization, whether incorporated or unincorporated, to have its endorsement of a candidate included on a ballot, the organization must

(a) have been in existence for at least 60 days immediately before the solemn declaration under subsection (3) is made, and
(b) have had throughout the period referred to in paragraph (a) a membership of at least 50 electors of the municipality or regional district for which the election is being held.
(2) An organization must indicate its endorsement by authorizing a director or other official to make the solemn declaration described in subsection (3).
(3) The solemn declaration of the official of the elector organization must include the following:
(a) a statement that, to the best of the knowledge, information and belief of the official, the elector organization
(i) has been in existence for at least 60 days immediately before the date on which the solemn declaration is made,
(ii) has had throughout the period referred to in subparagraph (i) a membership of at least 50 electors of the municipality or regional district for which the election is being held, and
(iii) has authorized the official to make the solemn declaration;
(b) the name of the candidate endorsed by the elector organization;
© the corporate name, if any, of the elector organization, the usual name of the organization and any abbreviations, acronyms and other names used by the elector organization;
(d) a statement as to which name, abbreviation or acronym referred to in paragraph © is the one that the elector organization wishes to have included on the ballot;
(e) the name of the director or other official responsible for the financial affairs of the elector organization;
(f) the name of the president, chair or other chief official of the elector organization and an address and telephone number at which this person can be contacted;
(g) any other matter required to be included by regulation under section 156.
(4) The name, abbreviation or acronym referred to in subsection (3) (d) must not
(a) include any matter that is prohibited by section 105 from being included on the ballot, or
(b) be, in the opinion of the chief election officer, so similar to the name, abbreviation or acronym of another elector organization whose endorsement of a candidate appeared on a ballot at the preceding general local election or a later election as to be confusing to the electors.
(5) A solemn declaration under subsection (3) may be made in relation to more than one candidate in an election, but only one elector organization endorsement may be shown on a ballot in relation to a candidate.
(6) An elector organization endorsement must not appear on a ballot if, before 4 p.m. on the 29th day before general voting day,
(a) the elector organization withdraws its endorsement by delivering to the chief election officer by that time
(i) a written withdrawal signed by a director or other official of the elector organization, and
(ii) a solemn declaration of the official signing the withdrawal that, to the best of that person's knowledge, information and belief, the elector organization has authorized the person to make the withdrawal, or
(b) the candidate withdraws the request to have the elector organization endorsement appear on the ballot by delivering a signed withdrawal to the chief election officer by that time.



#4 Lorne Carnes

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Posted 30 May 2011 - 08:58 PM

I believe there are internal barriers to consider as well.

In Victoria's last civic election VV endorsed a slate of candidates ( evidently lost forever now ) without consulting this participant/member.

How do participants/members of a discussion forum hiding behind pseudonyms authorize a director to make a solemn declaration?

#5 Hotel Mike

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Posted 31 May 2011 - 12:00 PM

Much better for all involved, to discuss the issues and candidates in the upcoming election and then let the voters make up their own minds.

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Posted 31 May 2011 - 01:58 PM

I'd be worried about VV "officially" endorsing anyone in an election, I think we should try to stay non-partisan, it might backfire and create an idea the community is officially politically biased.

But I also think we should do our best to get the word out there on who to vote for if you care about downtown and the city, to be a place where people can come for informed discussion and analysis of candidate's platforms and what effects they'd really have on the city. Maybe that would end up resulting in some sort of official endorsement system and end up being a good thing, I've got mixed feeling.
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#7 Bernard

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Posted 31 May 2011 - 02:04 PM

I was just pointing out it was an option, not a must.

I do believe there is a role for VV to act as a platform for the local elections. Ideally a separate forum area with a subject area for each municipality. With 13 different races, it would be nice to have them separated so you can look at the ones that matter to you.

#8 LJ

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Posted 31 May 2011 - 07:24 PM

But I also think we should do our best to get the word out there on who to vote for if you care about downtown and the city


I think you would have to add;

But I also think we should do our best to get the word out there on who to vote for if you care about your version of downtown and the city
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#9 Holden West

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Posted 31 May 2011 - 08:25 PM

Mainstream media has no problem with reporting objectively then endorsing a candidate.
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Posted 31 May 2011 - 08:41 PM

^ example? I personally do not favour VV supporting a particular politician. Sure a couple of editorial articles may show which way the owners lean but I like the diversity on the site and an endorsement will alienate people.
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#11 Bingo

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Posted 31 May 2011 - 08:58 PM

I think it might be better to let candidates present their ideas on VV and let the members respond to those comments. For example, we had some heated debate on VV during the fall referendum and the election of a new city councillor.

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#12 mysage

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Posted 01 June 2011 - 07:18 AM

^ example? I personally do not favour VV supporting a particular politician. Sure a couple of editorial articles may show which way the owners lean but I like the diversity on the site and an endorsement will alienate people.


Absolutely. VV is not a group of kindered spirits who are all working towards the same goals and thus as a group band together to support one cadidate or cause. The strength of VV lies in its diversity and its format is to promote dialogue - not cuases.

The moment VV becomes an entity that thinks of itself as a united voice with a point of view as a whole it becomes nothing more than one more lobby group and its whole identity is compromised.

 



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