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[Bingo]

[HB]

Bolt Gun in action

 

http://youtu.be/8xyvOCNCXdU

Edited by HB, 21 November 2016 - 10:40 AM.

[aastra]

 

This year the municipality is on track to haul away 50 deer carcasses, he said.

 

No doubt the supposed animal lovers will defend this sort of thing as the raw beauty of nature or some such bull****. I suppose the only thing more beautiful than dozens of deer dying in the streets would be hundreds of deer dying in the streets? For crying out loud, Oak Bay is 10 square kilometres! This is appalling. And all because the sight of a deer on a city street satisfies the selfish delusions of some silly people re: their supposed connection to a Disney-esque natural world?

 

I wonder, does that number include all deer that die or have to be put down, or just the roadkill? Past articles have mentioned deer drowning in swimming pools and getting impaled on the tops of fences, etc.

[todd]

http://www.oakbaynews.com/

https://issuu.com/bl...205826/41160565

https://issuu.com/bl...205826/41160565

 

http://www.oakbaynews.com/

[Awaiting Juno]

Conduct a cull - feed people.  If the deer are not managed, we will see more car vs. deer incidents, we will eventually see more cougars taking up residence.  This isn't that hard - and it seems that the overwhelming majority of those impacted are in support of a cull.  Or would we prefer that ICBC have unnecessary claims, with potential for needless injury to people and/or pets.

[todd]

 

Birth control plan for Oak Bay deer hits snag

 

Province balks at funding untested contraceptive scheme to reduce deer population

By Deborah Wilson, CBC News Posted: Dec 09, 2016 7:10 PM PT

 

A plan to put deer on birth control in the Victoria suburb of Oak Bay has hit a snag. ...........

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..... see more: http://www.cbc.ca/ne...3890546?cmp=rss

 

[VicHockeyFan]

The B.C. government wants more research done before it will help Oak Bay pay for its deer birth-control plan.

 

Oak Bay council asked the province to match funds up to $20,000, allowing the municipality to partner with the Urban Wildlife Stewardship Society to run a deer-contraception program.

 

The province approved funding for deer culls in Grand Forks, Invermere and Elkford, and for a study on deer relocation in Cranbrook — but not for Oak Bay’s proposal to use immuno-contraceptive drugs to prevent deer from reproducing.

 

In a statement, the Ministry of Forest, Lands and Natural Resource Operations said Oak Bay’s plan “is a complex undertaking that requires further research into the availability of drugs and careful planning to ensure the drugs are delivered in a humane and effective way.”

 

The province is asking for clarification on the availability of the contraceptive vaccine in Canada and the method that would be used for injection, Oak Bay Mayor Nils Jensen said.

 

- See more at: http://www.timescolo...h.DUn4FW0v.dpuf

[todd]

 

By Matt Meuse, CBC News Posted: Dec 11, 2016 

3 Interior B.C. communities get provincial funding for urban deer culls

 

 

The province is putting up more than $56,000 for urban deer management in Interior B.C. — an important jurisdictional victory for municipalities, according to the mayor of Invermere.

 

Invermere is getting $10,200 to help cull its urban deer population. Grand Forks is getting $16,000 and Elkford is getting $10,000.

 

Cranbrook is getting nearly $20,000 for a pilot relocation program.   .............

 

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.....see more: http://www.cbc.ca/ne...3891829?cmp=rss

Edited by todd, 11 December 2016 - 06:59 PM.

[VicHockeyFan]

Cranbrook is getting nearly $20,000 for a pilot relocation program.

 

 

Why do we kill rats, but relocate deer?

[todd]

Why do we kill rats, but relocated deer?

 

And rats are cuter.

[LJ]

Why do we kill rats, but relocated deer?

As long as you relocate the deer to a grave I'm OK with the program.

[VicHockeyFan]

We also "humanely" kill farmed animals, but care less about wild ones.  We hunt animals with rifles and may injure them, only for them to get away and die slowly.  And we just haul fish up into a boat and let them suffocate to death.

[todd]

We also "humanely" kill farmed animals, but care less about wild ones.  We hunt animals with rifles and may injure them, only for them to get away and die slowly.  And we just haul fish up into a boat and let them suffocate to death.

Crustaceans have it pretty bad too, just throw a live crab into a pot of boiling water(they never complain, sometimes pinch a bit on the way in) or just ripped the head off of a live prawn. But that's the way the cookie crumbles, I'm sure a shark would be very nice with you.

Edited by todd, 11 December 2016 - 09:12 PM.

[Bingo]

 This is appalling.

And all because the sight of a deer on a city street satisfies the selfish delusions of some silly people re: their supposed connection to a Disney-esque natural world?

 

We can blame it all on Marc Davis who back in 1942 animated the movements of Bambi.

https://en.wikipedia...avis_(animator)

[todd]

We can blame it all on Marc Davis who back in 1942 animated the movements of Bambi.

https://en.wikipedia...avis_(animator)

Worst movie of all time.

[todd]

Update December 12, 2016 - appendices to the survey, including a comparision between random sample responses and on-line responses, now available here.

 

https://www.oakbay.c...rict-thumbs-and

 

 

[nerka]

Impressive survey results - when 70% of the population supports raising taxes to deal with the issue and 78% explicitly support a cull.

 

Once Oak Bay gets this going we need to persuade Victoria deer to move to Oak Bay :-)

[Bingo]

A survey of Esquimalt residents finds a majority are willing to pay higher taxes to fund some form of deer program.

The survey was completed by 510 households, and found 59-per cent willing to stomach a tax increase to pay for deer management that could include public education, deer counts, or some form of deer management.

Participants were not polled specifically about their appetite for any kind of cull.

http://www.iheartrad...ogram-1.2269588

[VicHockeyFan]

http://www.iheartrad...ogram-1.2269588

 

A survey of Esquimalt residents finds a majority are willing to pay higher taxes to fund some form of deer program.

The survey was completed by 510 households, and found 59-per cent willing to stomach a tax increase to pay for deer management that could include public education, deer counts, or some form of deer management.

Participants were not polled specifically about their appetite for any kind of cull.

Eighty-four per cent reported seeing deer or signs of deer on their property, and, of that 84-per cent, around half reported that deer significantly damaged plant life on their property in 2016.

 

 

Why not polled on a cull?

[aastra]

 

Oak Bay Community Satisfaction Survey (the survey) released on Monday October 31, 2016 reveals that Oak Bay residents are largely pleased with their community...

 

I'm going to cite this Oak Bay community satisfaction survey as yet more evidence that Victorians aren't really clear about the terminology that gets tossed around (and possibly yet more evidence that Victorians aren't really clear about the municipal borders). How else to explain the presence of "overdensification" in a list of Oak Bay concerns? How else to comprehend the premise that some Oak Bay residents could possibly be "unhappy with densification"?

 

Population in 2015 (estimate) - 18,366

Population in 2011 - 18,015
Population in 2006 - 17,908
Population in 2001 - 17,798          
Population in 1996 - 17,865     
Population in 1991 - 17,815

 

The population of Oak Bay has grown by a whopping 3% since 1991. Not 3% per year. Just 3%! In other words, the population of Oak Bay is effectively unchanged over a span of almost 25 years.

 

And yet overdensification is on the minds of the people. They're concerned about overdensification in a municipality where overdensification would seem to have no relevance whatsoever.

 

So what's the deal here? Are the good people of Oak Bay actually concerned about overdensification in downtown Victoria? Or in some other area? If so, why?