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[On the Level]

^ Now now...lets all get along.  Langford has some beautiful lakeside boardwalks, very nice areas...as does Saanich, Sidney, Victoria, Esquimalt etc etc etc...... 

[sebberry]

and clubhouses.  I hear the one on Spencer is really nice!

[HB]

Glenwood would never open on San Pen

[nagel]

Costco is basically the only reason I go to Langford. And I try and only go at 7pm on a weekday. I am curious what unforeseen mess this second lane causes.

[sdwright.vic]

It's typical of the Victorians going g to Langford bashing types.

[Mike K.]

I dunno, Langford folks constantly remind us how everything they need is in Langford, and they only go in to the city for work.

It goes both ways, nobody is bashing anyone if their sole reason to go somewhere is to shop.

[On the Level]

I dunno, Langford folks constantly remind us how everything they need is in Langford, and they only go in to the city for work.

It goes both ways, nobody is bashing anyone if their sole reason to go somewhere is to shop.

Unclear here....."if there sole reason to go somewhere to shop"?

 

Open season on families that work for BC (legislated in the core) that can't afford to live downtown?

[sdwright.vic]

^I guess you've been missing every thing that's happening over on the homeless thread?

[Mike K.]

If residents of the Westshore keep reminding folks that "everything I need is in Langford (except employment)," I don't see why it should ruffle feathers when someone says "everything I need is in the city (except Costco)."

So no, that's not a jab st families, it's a statement to take us back down to earth from the silliness that tends to invade these discussions.

Ok, we've seen enough, back to local roads

[Mike K.]

 

Work starts on pedestrian crossing between Uptown and Saanich Plaza

http://victoria.citi...-saanich-plaza/

[rjag]

That will be interesting especially when the ferry traffic hits that spot. An overhead walkway may have made more sense

[nagel]

That will be interesting especially when the ferry traffic hits that spot. An overhead walkway may have made more sense

Kind of expensive when it would need an elevator.  Also impractical when Saanich is considering redoing Blanshard as 2 way (widening) with a redevelopment of the Save On section to reroute the "highway" off of Vernon.

[rjag]

https://www.google.c...!7i13312!8i6656

 

No elevator here

[nagel]

https://www.google.c...!7i13312!8i6656

 

No elevator here

Maybe get your measuring tape out and find out the length of that to get back to grade on either end.  I think that would put it on Vernon Ave even if it started on P4 of Uptown.

 

Or we could make a corkscrew ramp.  Who cares what the cost is.  How dare they have a beg button crossing that delays cars by 30 seconds every once in a while.

[nagel]

I think a controlled pedestrian crossing is between 25-200K depending on the level of traffic signalling required.  A ped overpass is over 1 million and would come with a significant grading and space issue on the Save On side.

[rjag]

Ignoring your sarcasm for the moment, I was posting this as an opinion and a 'why not' comment. There arent very many folks crossing there and in fact I think more mid-block cross over from Save On to the co-op housing on the other side by Garth Homer. Seems a ramp on the Save On side and it terminating on the upper deck at Uptown where the elevators and moving stairs are already in place. 

[nagel]

There's another mid-block crossing going in on Vernon as part of the Nigel Valley redevelopment that is slowly churning through approvals.  Along with, gasp, a lane removal.

 

Just saw the design on Victoria Buzz.  Nice to see the stop sign is FAR back from the crosswalk and it appears there will be a no right on red signal for turning into Uptown.

 

http://victoriabuzz....-saanich-plaza/

[shoeflack]

I think a controlled pedestrian crossing is between 25-200K depending on the level of traffic signalling required.  A ped overpass is over 1 million and would come with a significant grading and space issue on the Save On side.

 

In 2015 when they installed two uncontrolled pedestrian crossings downtown (800-block Yates, 500-block Pandora), there was a $106k budget for those two projects. A controlled crosswalk across a four lane Blanshard would have to be north of 250k...all of those signals are not cheap. Curious as to who is paying for this all. Seems like Morguard is the lead, but is the Ministry or Saanich contributing I wonder.

[nagel]

It may be Morguard as a condition for approval of Uptown Phase 4.

[Mike K.]

Here's the aerial, as per today's press release. I didn't see this earlier, it was tucked away in a link at the bottom of the release.