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#2661 Coreyburger

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Posted 11 October 2017 - 06:45 PM

City added new curbs to the corner... instead of the old easy wide curve, it's now a very tight turn off of West Saanich onto Old West. 

 

So how is making a corner more dangerous safer?

 

Slowing down isn't dangerous. And as for tighter turns, it comes down to curb radii - the smaller they are, the slower the turn will be. This allows more time to see people walking/biking on the side of the road (which used to be me about 20 years ago)


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#2662 Mike K.

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Posted 11 October 2017 - 06:51 PM

Is there a turning lane at the location?

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#2663 exc911ence

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 08:21 PM

Slowing down isn't dangerous. And as for tighter turns, it comes down to curb radii - the smaller they are, the slower the turn will be. This allows more time to see people walking/biking on the side of the road (which used to be me about 20 years ago)

 

Slowing down can be dangerous when there are distracted drivers behind you. The old corner didn't necessitate any real slowing down at all, now you have to slow right down on West Saanich to make the corner.

 

 


Is there a turning lane at the location?

 

No.



#2664 moretrain

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Posted 13 October 2017 - 09:37 AM

 

Slowing down can be dangerous when there are distracted drivers behind you. The old corner didn't necessitate any real slowing down at all, now you have to slow right down on West Saanich to make the corner.

 

It is safer, because it encourages focused driving. Not having to slow down on a corner is dangerous for pedestrians and cyclists. Now that you have to slow down, not only is it going to encourage you to be more observant, but it also encourages those behind you to be more vigilant. 

 

Im not a fan of the narrative that you seem to have started giving an excuse to distracted drivers.


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#2665 exc911ence

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Posted 13 October 2017 - 05:30 PM

It is safer, because it encourages focused driving. Not having to slow down on a corner is dangerous for pedestrians and cyclists. Now that you have to slow down, not only is it going to encourage you to be more observant, but it also encourages those behind you to be more vigilant. 

 

Im not a fan of the narrative that you seem to have started giving an excuse to distracted drivers.

 

Distracted drivers are a fact of modern life and no amount of legislation and enforcement is going to change that.

 

What I like is efficiency and a corner that you can coast through trumps any corner that forces you to brake into and then re-accelerate out of. We're all about green initiatives until it comes to cars here in Victoria. Well guess what, the more traffic calming and bike lanes that get added to our existing infrastructure results in more cars sitting idle for longer durations. And that isn't green at all.


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#2666 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 16 October 2017 - 08:26 PM

Those new parking stalls on Quadra adjacent the music academy are a bit of a head-scratcher.  Not the stalls themselves, but the road markings and lane usage.  You have two northbound lanes crossing Johnson and suddenly in the curb lane there are parked cars.  No merge indicators or lane closed indicator, and certainly not a mandatory right onto Johnson from the curb lane.  The bus, well it stops at the 7/11 I'm pretty sure almost every run, so it has not got up a steam, and knows it has to merge in, but for other traffic it seems wonky.

 

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#2667 Mike K.

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Posted 16 October 2017 - 08:34 PM

Luckily you can't park there 4PM-6PM, or maybe 530PM.


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#2668 nagel

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Posted 17 October 2017 - 06:54 AM

That's no different than Burnside Road in Saanich.

 

Anyways I am fairly certain the VCM requested those spots and the city is trying hard to oblige where they can.



#2669 Mike K.

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Posted 17 October 2017 - 07:14 AM

I have seen much more frequent towing of vehicles blocking travel lanes when no-parking restrictions come into play.

 

That wasn't really a thing here, I don't think. I mean you'd see it but it wasn't something that would occur right at the cutoff time for those stalls, and I'm seeing that now especially during the morning rush.


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#2670 sdwright.vic

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Posted 17 October 2017 - 03:27 PM

I used to see tow trucks staged outside my office at one time.... waiting for the "witching hour" to occur.
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#2671 sebberry

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Posted 17 October 2017 - 03:45 PM

I used to see tow trucks staged outside my office at one time.... waiting for the "witching hour" to occur.

 

Hitching hour?  Winching hour? 

 

Whatever it is, it's a form of legalized theft and should be prohibited.


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#2672 Rob Randall

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Posted 17 October 2017 - 04:08 PM

Hitching hour?  Winching hour? 

 

Whatever it is, it's a form of legalized theft and should be prohibited.

 

What are you saying? Parking is fine in the rush hour lane? The idea of having two lanes open is to flush traffic out at rush hour, decreasing congestion.



#2673 sebberry

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Posted 17 October 2017 - 04:09 PM

What are you saying? Parking is fine in the rush hour lane? The idea of having two lanes open is to flush traffic out at rush hour, decreasing congestion.

 

Nope, but towing isn't fine either.


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#2674 Rob Randall

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Posted 17 October 2017 - 04:16 PM

^Er, so you propose vapourizing? I don't understand.



#2675 sebberry

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Posted 17 October 2017 - 04:28 PM

What's wrong with a higher ticket amount during rush hour? 


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#2676 Rob Randall

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Posted 17 October 2017 - 04:31 PM

If I'm trying to get home after work, a ticket on that guy's dashboard doesn't clear my lane.


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#2677 sebberry

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Posted 17 October 2017 - 04:37 PM

But he won't park there again. 

 

Why is your rush home more important than him having his car when he returns from whatever specialist doctor's appointment that ran late?


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#2678 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 17 October 2017 - 04:45 PM

He's gotta get the tow.  I agree with this.


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#2679 LJ

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Posted 17 October 2017 - 07:26 PM

I agree, scoop them all. Otherwise some people would just use the lane for parking and pay the ticket as the cost of doing business.


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#2680 sebberry

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Posted 17 October 2017 - 07:37 PM

Nope.  You just don't do it as per this Pulp Fiction clip:

 

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