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#241 Nparker

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Posted 21 February 2024 - 11:52 PM

It could be "Granville Island-ed" with some high density housing to offset the costs.



#242 Mike K.

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Posted 22 February 2024 - 07:36 AM

The residents of Dockside Green are going to be mighty upset.
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#243 Nparker

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Posted 22 February 2024 - 08:17 AM

The residents of North Park, not so much.

#244 lanforod

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Posted 22 February 2024 - 08:48 AM

Those satellite pics show that doughnuts are popular there, based on the tire tracks. Wheelies, not so much, Mike ;).

 

Is this not an area that has already been remediated mostly?


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#245 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 22 February 2024 - 08:52 AM

Those satellite pics show that doughnuts are popular there, based on the tire tracks. Wheelies, not so much, Mike ;).

 

Is this not an area that has already been remediated mostly?

 

Ya but not the other stuff they stare at nearby.


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#246 IPH

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Posted 22 February 2024 - 09:21 AM

The BC Hydro and Transport Canada lands were remediated between 2004 -2016 approx.  The section bounded by Store, Pembroke, Government and the water lot was the first phase and was completed in 2004-2006.



#247 spanky123

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Posted 22 February 2024 - 11:10 AM

The BC Hydro and Transport Canada lands were remediated between 2004 -2016 approx.  The section bounded by Store, Pembroke, Government and the water lot was the first phase and was completed in 2004-2006.

 

Yeah and the cost to the taxpayer was close to $100M if I remember.

 

With all of the heavy industrial use on both sides of the FN land I would think that we are at least decades away from any meaningful Gastown like development in that area.

 

For several years the CRD was paying the FN something like $500K a month to lease the bare land. Not sure if that deal has continued but if it were me and I owned the land I wouldn't be that motivated to do anything but collect my cheque.


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#248 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 22 February 2024 - 11:12 AM

It’s all remediated. At the cost of $100m. But now what?

Not sure this is different than most (sometime prime) FN land around here. Nothing going on. Need more leadership.

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#249 spanky123

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Posted 22 February 2024 - 11:26 AM

Contrary to what a lot of people think, most local FN have a multiple of commercial business interests and generate a lot of revenue. According to their own website, the Songhees FN as an example rents housing to about 1,500 tenants (their on reserve population is about 300).

 

As such, FN operate on a timeline and with interests that align with their own plan and need for their communities. 



#250 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 22 February 2024 - 11:29 AM

Who are their leaders? Why does so much waterfront real estate stay vacant off Admirals?

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Posted 22 February 2024 - 01:38 PM

Who are their leaders? Why does so much waterfront real estate stay vacant off Admirals?


Because their motivation isn’t just to maximize profit.

#252 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 22 February 2024 - 02:03 PM

Because their motivation isn’t just to maximize profit.



What is the motivation?

#253 Tony

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Posted 22 February 2024 - 04:26 PM

What is the motivation?

Their land their choice.


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#254 dasmo

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Posted 22 February 2024 - 09:01 PM

Songhees own that land now don’t they?

#255 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 22 February 2024 - 10:08 PM

Songhees own that land now don’t they?

 

Songhees and Esquimalt joint.



#256 Vin

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Posted 23 February 2024 - 02:30 PM

This could be the new financial/commercial centre of Victoria, like Docklands in Melbourne or Canary Wharf in London? These are all built around waterways. 



#257 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 23 February 2024 - 02:32 PM

As if. There is zero leadership here. It’ll likely be more trailer homes like most reserves here.

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#258 LJ

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Posted 23 February 2024 - 07:58 PM

Unless provincial/federal governments pony up tons of cash for them, nothing will be done.


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Posted 23 February 2024 - 09:27 PM

Unless provincial/federal governments pony up tons of cash for them, nothing will be done.

 

Of course, we could relocate tiny-town, but that wouldn't give Helps and Co an excuse to reallocate parking spaces to shipping container homes.  Can't have people park when folks need housing!


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#260 Tony

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Posted 24 February 2024 - 09:52 AM

Their land their choice.

Lots of value tinged comments above.



 



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