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#1 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 13 November 2015 - 02:48 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2...ting/index.html

 

Paris attacks: 60 reported killed, hostage situation ongoing

 



#2 spanky123

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Posted 13 November 2015 - 02:56 PM

Bad timing for the Liberals, especially if this get tied back to ISIS / refugees.



#3 Benezet

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Posted 13 November 2015 - 03:03 PM

Bad timing for the Liberals, especially if this get tied back to ISIS / refugees.


FFS. How about, bad timing for the victims?
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Posted 13 November 2015 - 03:07 PM

Just to update that initial CNN statement, upwards of 60 are reportedly held hostage, at least 40 dead, according to the BBC.


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Posted 13 November 2015 - 03:09 PM

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Posted 13 November 2015 - 03:10 PM

And of course from intelligence sources they'll immediately start reviewing travel itineraries and movements of so-called "returners", those travelers who have traveled to and from the Middle East. What a mess. No telling yet how many wounded and injured innocent bystanders. 



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Posted 13 November 2015 - 03:18 PM

FFS. How about, bad timing for the victims?

 

Wasn't trying to diminish the anguish of the victims but I would prefer that we don't repeat the exercise in Canada because some idiot PM decided to rush in 25k people without background checks.

 

France just announced that they have closed their borders.


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Posted 13 November 2015 - 03:37 PM

For those of us who have lived in Victoria for a while, we remember about 15 years ago when Chinese immigrants came to Canada in containers. They were initially locked up at Work Point for several days before they were transferred to Vancouver to determine their immigration status. Once they got to Vancouver, bleeding hearts took over and the refugees were allowed out of confinement. Almost every single one of them disappeared. At the time it was suggested that most of the people were smuggled by triads into Canada which is why they had no reason to want to proceed through immigration.

 

The Liberals are now suggesting that Syrian refugees will be brought to Canada and then screened after arrival. Does anyone think that they will be confined on Military bases? Any guess as to how many simply walk off the bases without any determination being made on their background, health or eligibility?



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Posted 13 November 2015 - 06:04 PM

150+ now confirmed dead with many more expected to succumb to their injuries. Two terrorists for sure killed by French security forces. At least seven separate different attack (sites). Most of those in the popular bar and cafe district and clearly designed to maximize the damage to bystanders.

 

No matter how many Syrian or other legitimate refugees Mr Trudeau ultimately approves to come into this country I would expect now any thoughts of "fast tracking" those people are being seriously re-thought and reconsidered tonight by our own government security agencies. 



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Posted 13 November 2015 - 06:09 PM

Spanky, Pivoting from a terrorist attack to the refugee issue is more than a bit of a stretch. The "idiot PM" is talking about bringing in refugees nominated by the United Nations as the most deserving cases, fleeing war and ISIS in Syria. They will be screened and processed and are not a terrorist threat. These are not human smugglers being brought in by organized crime.  These are people and families in desperate situations, and Canada may play an important role in alleviating some human suffering.  As to the terrorist attack in Paris, If this is anything like previous attacks, these are radicalized youth who were raised in Europe and somehow inspired by ISIS ideology. Blame a lot of different factors for what leads someone to go kill innocent people, but other than some racial fear mongering I don't see a link to Canada assisting on the refugee issue. 


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Posted 13 November 2015 - 06:17 PM

^ McCallum was on CTV last night stating that the vast majority of refugees being brought to Canada would not be screened before they got here. Without identification the refugees could be from Syria but they could also be from Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan or a dozen other countries in the same region. They could be the most deserving, loving families but they could also be criminals, thieves, TB carriers or anyone else looking for easy entry into Canada. All that most of us are asking for is to take the time to properly screen people coming into this country to ensure that we are not allowing in radicals who have publicly claimed that their desire is to attack Canada's infrastructure and its people. The PM seems bent on meeting a stupid campaign promise at any cost.

 

I would be surprised that 'radicalized youth' would be capable of simultaneous attacks at multiple sites using automatic weapons and explosives.


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Posted 13 November 2015 - 06:28 PM

Did you note that the UNHCR will be identifying the highest priority cases? Making a political jab at the Liberals as the second comment about 150+ dead in Paris says it all about where you are coming from.
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Posted 13 November 2015 - 06:31 PM

If you believe that then I have a $67M bridge for you. Every country is getting the UNHCR highest priority cases. The other 11.4M people aren't going anywhere.



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Posted 13 November 2015 - 06:38 PM

Well let's hold on a little. We don't yet have the facts from Paris. If anything this will give the PM pause and his advisors, who also advised Harper, who also advised his predecessors, an opportunity to remind the PM what "will" happen and not what he promised will happen. VHF and I know the fellow who pens a daily threat report for the PM. No doubt those professionals will school Trudeau accordingly.

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Posted 13 November 2015 - 06:41 PM

Well let's hold on a little. We don't yet have the facts from Paris. If anything this will give the PM pause and his advisors, who also advised Harper, who also advised his predecessors, an opportunity to remind the PM what "will" happen and not what he promised will happen. VHF and I know the fellow who pens a daily threat report for the PM. No doubt those professionals will school Trudeau accordingly.


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Posted 13 November 2015 - 06:42 PM

Heh, I wonder if we know the same guy.....



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Posted 13 November 2015 - 06:54 PM

Quite possibly.

It's interesting that Hollande has been quoted as saying that security forces know who the attackers are.

Has any group claimed responsibility yet?

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Posted 13 November 2015 - 07:05 PM

Quite possibly.

It's interesting that Hollande has been quoted as saying that security forces know who the attackers are.

Has any group claimed responsibility yet?

Global TV cited an unnamed source as strongly implying an ISIL connection but I think its too early to determine yet. As a French intelligence analyst said it could be ISIL or it could be Al Quaida, or, or, or.....

 

All sources I've read agree it was an event architected by an 'organization' of some description as the command and control coordination and sophistication of these attacks are well beyond the ability of a lone wolf-style attack. French authorities now apparently saying all the attackers were killed by security forces.



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Posted 13 November 2015 - 07:07 PM

All attackers?

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Posted 13 November 2015 - 07:09 PM

^Well some were killed when their vests detonated.


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