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#1 dirtydeeds

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Posted 11 May 2016 - 05:52 PM

A new paint job for the new restaurant going into the Cabin 12 location. Looks like "The Cottage" is planning a summer opening?image.jpeg image.jpeg

Edited by dirtydeeds, 12 May 2016 - 04:43 AM.

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#2 Nparker

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Posted 11 May 2016 - 06:10 PM

Inverting the building must have cost a fair sum of money. I wonder if this innovation will help attract customers?


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Posted 11 May 2016 - 06:40 PM

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#4 Klapecki

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Posted 11 May 2016 - 06:41 PM

This is to become a family Cafe with a large play area. Like Crumsby in Estevan but triple the size. I talked to the owner and she will have an ECE supervised playground in addition to seating for parents to enjoy a meal. Also possible drop in daycare. They own the Applebox on Cook st.
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#5 Matt R.

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Posted 11 May 2016 - 07:37 PM

Hope the ECE gets a healthy share of the tips.

Matt.

#6 Nparker

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Posted 11 May 2016 - 07:49 PM

ECE = Early Childhood Educator


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#7 Matt R.

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Posted 11 May 2016 - 09:24 PM

ECE = $15/hr

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ETA my better half was an ECE for a long time

Edited by Matt R., 11 May 2016 - 10:50 PM.

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#8 Klapecki

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Posted 12 May 2016 - 05:46 PM

ECE = $15/hr

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ETA my better half was an ECE for a long time


Geez. That's what dishwashers want these days...
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#9 Nparker

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Posted 12 May 2016 - 06:01 PM

Geez. That's what dishwashers want these days...

I agree. ECEs should be paid much more than $15/hour.


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#10 Rob Randall

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Posted 12 May 2016 - 09:07 PM

Let me get this straight. It's a restaurant filled with shrieking children?
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#11 insanelydeadlydisease

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Posted 21 May 2016 - 05:47 PM

I can't see this working.
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#12 weirdie

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Posted 22 May 2016 - 05:22 AM

I can't see this working.

You mean you don't think alienating potential customers with the most disposable income in favour of those who are the most frugal is a good business model?

Edit: though there are a couple places like this around (Tumblebums in Langford) I just don't think there's much of a market for this kind of thing.

Edited by weirdie, 22 May 2016 - 05:34 AM.


#13 Klapecki

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Posted 22 May 2016 - 07:50 AM

I think your wrong. Don't underestimate the power of moms that want to get out with their little ones and go eat somewhere. Most places if a child/baby makes any noise, dirty looks are thrown the parent's way. A place where kids can be kids might not apeal to the older male population of Victoria, but for moms it could be a little haven where they can get a bite to eat, some mommy juice or caffeine, and let their little one play safely. I for one know I will see this place on my credit card statement as my wife gets out with our newborn. The hardest thing for moms is to take time to feed themselves when all the energy is focused on providing for their hungry little monsters. I would be surprised if they didn't do well...

#14 Jill

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Posted 22 May 2016 - 08:24 AM

My impression is that Tumblebums is a play place and toy store, not a place to eat, although it does have some snack items. Crumsby's does very well. I think two challenges for this place will be the size and the location.



#15 Rob Randall

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Posted 22 May 2016 - 08:42 AM

Cabin 12 did ok for a while, with its varied clientele of hung-over college kids, senior church folk, Saanich hipsters, tradesmen on lunch break and neighbors who became loyal regulars.

But the kiddie concept slashes your customer base. As if The Gap eliminated all their clothing stock except maternity wear. You have to cast a far wider customer net to make up the deficit. Because if you're looking for a caffeine and bacon-fuelled morning antidote to a night of boozing it up you are likely to steer clear of a place where you are guaranteed to encounter a surprisingly loud three year-old who vehemently insists that walking home barefoot in the snow is a perfectly reasonable idea.

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#16 weirdie

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Posted 22 May 2016 - 11:34 AM

A place where kids can be kids might not apeal to the older male population of Victoria...


Or teenagers, university students, single people who don't want to seem like perverts, child-free people of all ages, seniors without grandchildren, tourists, or anyone looking for a clean, quiet environment to have a coffee and a snack. I'm not saying it can't work, I'm saying it's a huge investment in a weird area of town for a very niche clientèle. But if it gets unruly children and their parents out of pubs, more power to them.
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#17 jonny

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Posted 22 May 2016 - 12:28 PM

Crumsby's has been in business for many years with a very child friendly vibe.

Cabin 12's problem was that it sucked...

#18 phx

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Posted 22 May 2016 - 08:37 PM

Cabin 12's problem was that it sucked...

 

No argument there.



#19 Arcaydia

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 09:15 PM

As a mom with young kids, i think you under estimate the potential in this space! Many of us need/want more places to meet where our kids can play. There are a LOT of us and a lot of moms that support her original business. It will be a destination but one that i think, if they have done things right, moms will flock to. 


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#20 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 04 June 2016 - 07:44 AM

I agree. ECEs should be paid much more than $15/hour.

 

Daycares are free to charge, and pay staff, all they want.  


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