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#1 AllseeingEye

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Posted 19 February 2017 - 09:42 AM

Those two little words in the following quote from the article encapsulate perfectly the unrealistic Luddite attitude (still IMO) far too prevalent in this region: "....single-family residences and the owners expect the neighbourhood to stay as is...."

 

http://www.timescolo...erns-1.10099319

 

Really? So is it realistic for someone in their 20's today to expect by the time they hit their late 70's that their current and present lifestyle, their circle of family and friends - their health - will stay "as is?"

 

What about the First Nations who 160+ years ago were bothering precisely no one when a bunch of white dudes pulled up in some boats with "Hey man! Can you move over so we can bring in our stuff?!!" <-> (Thanks to George Carlin for that nugget which fits nicely into the scope of my comments here) - how did that work out for the F-N of the south island region? Did their world stay "as is" once whitey moved in, took over and ran the show?

 

Has the tiny settlement of what became Fort Victoria remained "as is" in the century and a half + since that time? 

 

Even in my own lifetime did Greater Victoria in 2017 remain "as is" from my recollection of the area in 1967? What about my old Cedar Hill neighborhood where I grew up as a young kid from 1965-72: did it stay "as is" in the 45 years since we moved away to a different neighborhood?

 

In order - No. No. No. No. And...No!! Nothing is forever - nothing. So for the life of me I really cannot figure out why we have these ridiculous unrealistic but seemingly entrenched attitudes in certain segments of the CoV/CRD. In that vein it mystifies too me to read Young and Coleman's comments in regards. I suppose they are a reflection of "political expediency" - comments they presume they must make in order to be re-elected?

 

I don't know but this I do know - and I'm sorry to be the bearer of this news to folks freaking out that "change" is coming to their tiny little corner of the earth - but your life, your health, your family, your city and yes your neighborhood will ALL change in time. Bank on it. Accept it. Move on and stop worrying. Smoke a fattie if that's what it takes to calm you down. Ultimately you'll live longer. Because rest very assured your life and your city ain't going to remain "as is" indefinitely....


Edited by AllseeingEye, 19 February 2017 - 09:45 AM.

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#2 Nparker

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Posted 19 February 2017 - 10:02 AM

I agree 100% with all of the above. Is there something in the air or water in the CRD that makes so many people feel like they live in a museum?

...Smoke a fattie if that's what it takes to calm you down. Ultimately you'll live longer...

I am not sure these folks will want to live longer; they'll only be forced to accept more change.  :eek:



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Posted 19 February 2017 - 10:13 AM

Smoke a fattie if that's what it takes to calm you down.

 

With nearly 40 pot shops in town, you'd think Victorians would be the most relaxed and accepting of change. 


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#4 GabriolaGirl

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Posted 19 February 2017 - 10:15 AM

It's not just CoV, I think it's everywhere.  Gabriola is the hotbed of nothing here should ever change.  You should have seen the uproar when the Arts council wanted to paint a couple of hydro poles.

A developer here wants to transfer density from one area to another, giving Gabriola that land as a park, putting in a road that is desperately needed for safety of an entire part of the island, but they are doing everything in their power to stop this from happening.  It's like they want a drawbridge once they get here.  And don't mention a bridge....


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#5 2F2R

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Posted 19 February 2017 - 10:32 AM

Beautiful ... I don't want to live in the stagnant pond.


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Posted 19 February 2017 - 11:10 AM

When the push for years has been to building services for wealthy retirees and snowbirds then it is hardly a surprise that these people invest here and then aren't too interested in seeing things changed.

 

I will give Helps credit for recognizing that we need a diversity of groups living in the City in order for it to progress.



#7 todd

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Posted 19 February 2017 - 11:14 AM

So sneaky with the symbols.



#8 On the Level

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Posted 19 February 2017 - 12:37 PM

It's not just the CoV...

 

 

Lowe said it’s “highly unlikely” that Saanich will place a moratorium on his application given the property is already zoned for the height and density requested, although critics say the zoning itself is out of date.

 

So by stating that the zoning itself is "out of date"...does this mean the CRD should not only stay "as-is", but revert back to it's colonial roots?  So much for having walk-able communities and limiting urban sprawl..... 

 

http://www.timescolo...-say-1.10099321


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#9 todd

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Posted 19 February 2017 - 12:45 PM

It's not just the CoV...

 

 

 

Battle lines drawn:  http://www.timescolo...-say-1.10099321


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#10 todd

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Posted 19 February 2017 - 12:52 PM

Maybe represents the current satisfaction with the city, and the fear of the unknown?

 



#11 aastra

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Posted 19 February 2017 - 04:17 PM

 

When the push for years has been to building services for wealthy retirees and snowbirds then it is hardly a surprise that these people invest here and then aren't too interested in seeing things changed.

 

Just one problem with this angle. Nobody seems to have any concerns about two of the biggest changes Victoria has ever seen, namely the JSB-replacement project and now this new aquatic centre project. But a new lowrise apartment block in a neighbourhood that already contains something like 200 lowrise apartment blocks is filed under "disconcerting change". It just makes no sense at all to claim to be concerned about the most trivial little incremental changes while not giving half a damn about enormous & transformative changes.


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#12 Bingo

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Posted 19 February 2017 - 11:18 PM

 It just makes no sense at all to claim to be concerned about the most trivial little incremental changes while not giving half a damn about enormous & transformative changes.

 

This is Victoria and nobody swims here except those training for the Olympics, and it's always someone else's house that burns down so Firehall's are a low priority as are the bike lanes that are rarely used.

Nobody except the American's care about sewage treatment, when a backyard septic tank will suffice. And bridges really aren't needed in Victoria when there are many alternate ways of getting from A to B.

We need to just drink more tea with our crumpets, and relax a bit.


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