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[Nparker]

At 300 square feet you don't have room for much furniture. I've stayed in larger cruise ship cabins.

[Victoria Watcher]

(window placement likely different)

 

 

 

I lived in this once quite comfortably, but put the bed over "built in"

 

 

 

 

 

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 23 February 2024 - 08:52 AM.

[Mike K.]

With built-in furniture it’s surprising how roomier a unit can become.

This is the direction we’re heading in. Expect more Janion-sized condos in the years to come.

[Nparker]

I'd die if I had to live in such a tiny space. I often think my 900 square foot condo is too small. Ideally, I'd like something around 1200 square feet.

[Mike K.]

You’re also not 20, and leaving home for the first time.

UVic dorms are 1/3 of the size of the smallest units here. Some are even shared.

[Nparker]

But where will these 20-year-olds live when they are 40 and everything is 600 square feet or smaller? Sounds like a bleak future.

[Mike K.]

They’ll take over your 900 square foot unit And eventually aastra’s 22,500 square foot unit.

Choice is the magic spice of life!

[Nparker]

I have every intention of burning it to the ground when I'm on my death bed.

[Mike K.]

Hopefully your death bed will be elsewhere?

[Nparker]

Not likely. I'm staying where I am 'til the bitter end.

[Victoria Watcher]

“Levels”. If you walk on your hand and knees we can double the density, by reducing ceiling heights.

[Victoria Watcher]

Biologically, man was never meant to walk upright.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 23 February 2024 - 09:44 AM.

[Ismo07]

There are lots of old buildings with small units, and I mean built as small units.  This isn't a new concept.  For sure large units are getting smaller in new buildings for the most part, but lots of < 450 sq suits out there built before the 2000s.

[Vin]

I'd die if I had to live in such a tiny space. I often think my 900 square foot condo is too small. Ideally, I'd like something around 1200 square feet.

 

When you get to that, I bet you'll think it's too small too. 

[Nparker]

When you get to that, I bet you'll think it's too small too. 

Probably not. I don't need more rooms than I have now, just slightly larger ones would be nice.

[GaryOak]

Here's the "average" layout

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[Victoria Watcher]

There were concerns about parking and the size of the units — in the latest proposal, the average size of a unit is 389 square feet.

 

While the project has been given the green light, it is not yet a done deal.

 

The developer must meet several conditions, including incorporating wind-mitigation features, adding indoor and outdoor amenities for tenants, revising its bike and mobility-scooter parking configurations and ensuring the building design does not hinder the ­ability to construct a building at the vacant adjacent site at 930 Fort St.

 

If Nelson Investments can’t convince city staff it has addressed all of those issues, it will return to council.

 

Councillors Stephen Hammond and Marg Gardiner voted against the project.

 

Gardiner said while there were things she liked about it, she was concerned about the livability of the small units and the size of the building on a relatively small lot.

Coun. Krista Loughton said for her, “housing trumps everything.”

 

“This is a project that could potentially be multi-generational, affordable rental housing for people in Victoria. The importance of creating things so that people’s children and grandchildren can stay here and support parents in their older age, that for me, that trumps everything,” she said.

 

Mayor Marianne Alto said one of the most important factors was the number of secured rental units.

 

“I think this brings certainty into the rental market,” she said. “It’s a change in the skyline and it’s tough. Change is hard, but if we’re going to really accommodate the thousands of people we’re told are coming and we want to have those people become Victorians, we have to embrace the change.”

 

 

 

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Edited by Victoria Watcher, 24 February 2024 - 05:24 AM.

[Mike K.]

The developer must meet several conditions, including incorporating wind-mitigation features, adding indoor and outdoor amenities for tenants, revising its bike and mobility-scooter parking configurations and ensuring the building design does not hinder the ­ability to construct a building at the vacant adjacent site at 930 Fort St.

 

 

There are no wind mitigation issues to introduce, and there is no requirement left over relating to 930 Fort Street, that itself was a bit of an oddity, but it's neither here nor there.

 

What the applicant still has to do is ensure the amenity spaces fall under the auspices of the current permissions for the site, so if they choose to do something outside the scope of what is permitted, they'll have to return to council.