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#8881 Mike K.

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Posted 05 August 2016 - 10:02 AM

I see what we've done, we've given them a tool station, no surprise I guess that they have set up a shop.  This fella has been there from 7:58am until at least now (10:22am).

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I snapped that photo at 7:25AM :)


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#8882 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 05 August 2016 - 10:05 AM

That is quite the rig. If no electric boost, must take quite a bit of leg power to move it all!

 

 

That's what is quite fascinating about some of the homeless and their contraptions.  They seem to spend a lot of time designing, building, repairing and maintaining their transportation equipment, when they of all people have nowhere to go.

 

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#8883 A Girl is No one

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Posted 05 August 2016 - 10:36 AM

If you never felt unsafe downtown in 2014, you were not in Victoria.


I have lived and worked downtown for many years and have never felt unsafe until this year. Yes, there were some homeless people but the sheer presence of homeless people does not make me feel unsafe. The current enabling and entitlement, knowing they will not be annoyed by any police or bylaw officers no matter what they do, is what is leading to more aggressive behaviour and making things unsafe.
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#8884 jonny

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Posted 05 August 2016 - 10:43 AM

On Cormorant Street last week, one of these massive homeless bicycle rigs was parked in a street parking stall all day. I wonder if they ever got a ticket?


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#8885 Mike K.

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Posted 05 August 2016 - 10:51 AM

I have lived and worked downtown for many years and have never felt unsafe until this year. Yes, there were some homeless people but the sheer presence of homeless people does not make me feel unsafe. The current enabling and entitlement, knowing they will not be annoyed by any police or bylaw officers no matter what they do, is what is leading to more aggressive behaviour and making things unsafe.

 

But they're all isolated incidents, officialdom says.


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Posted 05 August 2016 - 11:20 AM

Look, if you work for PHS in Vancouver, and you know there is some kind of spots here, of course you will refer people over. That's what the service providers are supposed to do, provide services to get people off streets, including referrals.

I thought the whole premise for this thing was to solve Victorians Homelessness issue/concern/problem/major problem/catastrophe... who are all from here, right?

 

Why draw the line at turning Victoria into Victoria's DTES, when we can turn Victoria into Vancouver's DTES.

And what about Seattle, Portland, San Francisco... and why stop at Canada and North America?
 

Meanwhile, Coleman, heading into an election, is using our City Council to flush the homeless from the City they care about to the City they don't, using their provider PHS, from Vancouver, that Coleman hired.  After, of course getting our so called law enforcement people to agree that tent city should stay, for as long the facilities they, the government, keep providing, are kept full. No doubt when they run out of new recruits, they will close the temporary facilities, and guess what, we're back to full.  

 

BTW to add  to the "crisis", the Powers that be, had decided a couple months ago to shut down and renovate the Sandy Merriment facility. This has contributed to a lack of inventory, at other facilities. When will it be opened? Mid September, when our conniving City Council intends to converge events. The Sandy Merriment center is  literally one block from Tent City.

If it sounds a lot like the so called deregulation power crises, due to market manipulation from a few years back, its because the same BC Government was involved in that too.


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Posted 05 August 2016 - 11:36 AM

There's quite a difference between Mike K and VHF's photos - in the second quite a clean up has been done and the load back on the bike and... trailer(?).  Guaranteed that mess was there quite some time before Mike K got to it. The installation of the tool station is like a pop up chop shop.


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#8888 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 05 August 2016 - 11:43 AM

There's quite a difference between Mike K and VHF's photos - in the second quite a clean up has been done and the load back on the bike and... trailer(?).  Guaranteed that mess was there quite some time before Mike K got to it. The installation of the tool station is like a pop up chop shop.

 

About an hour before I took my photo, I walked by.  There was a second person cleaning up, with another carting device.  That person was gone later, when I took the photo.


<p><span style="font-size:12px;"><em><span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">"I don’t need a middle person in my pizza slice transaction" <strong>- zoomer, April 17, 2018</strong></span></em></span>

#8889 VicPushedOver

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Posted 05 August 2016 - 12:44 PM

I hope next time they steal the Mayors bike, they "process" it there.


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#8890 mbjj

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Posted 05 August 2016 - 02:09 PM

Just about saw a car crash as I crossed on foot at Quadra and Burdett a while ago. Drivers simply cannot see what's coming....I hid my eyes!


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#8891 SimonH

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Posted 05 August 2016 - 02:35 PM

Wife and I have just returned from downtown. We were approached by a pan handler asking for food money, we politely declined. He responded by saying he hopes we effing choke on our next meal. 

 

We'll be eating dinner around 7 pm this evening.

 

This may be my last post.


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#8892 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 05 August 2016 - 03:02 PM

Wife and I have just returned from downtown. We were approached by a pan handler asking for food money, we politely declined. 

This may be my last post.

 

I'm in the habit now of helpfully informing beggars about Our Place now, when they mention food.  I get a range of answers.  Unsafe area, banned, food is not good etc.  Or sometimes, "I don't want to go all the way up there".


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#8893 aastra

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Posted 05 August 2016 - 03:58 PM

 

 I get a range of answers.  Unsafe area, banned, food is not good etc.  Or sometimes, "I don't want to go all the way up there".

 

So when the man on the street is doing this sort of data collection re: client experiences, how often should the numbers be forwarded to the authorities? Weekly? Monthly?


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#8894 RFS

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Posted 06 August 2016 - 06:40 AM

Two tents this morning in the vic west park beside the lawn bowling club. Considered reporting it but why bother

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Posted 06 August 2016 - 10:03 AM

Two tents this morning in the vic west park beside the lawn bowling club. Considered reporting it but why bother

 

Call it in to Vic PD non-emerg, they will act at some point.


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<p><span style="font-size:12px;"><em><span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">"I don’t need a middle person in my pizza slice transaction" <strong>- zoomer, April 17, 2018</strong></span></em></span>

#8896 A Girl is No one

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Posted 06 August 2016 - 11:00 AM

Good article about tent city in the province newspaper today.

Apparently the new flush toilets at Tent city are gross, worse than an outhouse (shocking) and some of the squatters are homeless by choice and refuse to live by any rules (what????)..

http://www.theprovin...7236/story.html

#8897 A Girl is No one

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Posted 06 August 2016 - 11:01 AM

Call it in to Vic PD non-emerg, they will act at some point.


Give or take a year...

#8898 mbjj

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Posted 06 August 2016 - 02:51 PM

Well I sure got a whiff of those toilets walking by yesterday....horrible.

 

A lovely little chamber orchestra was playing in the cathedral grounds this morning. Too bad they had a backdrop for the audience of three yucky dumpsters. I miss the hedge.


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#8899 North Shore

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Posted 06 August 2016 - 02:54 PM

Anyone heard from SimonH? I hope that he and his wife are OK after their dinner last night!


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#8900 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 06 August 2016 - 03:04 PM

Here's a Q.

 

At Queen's Manor, residents pay $375/mo.  But their suite comes with no furnishings, but it does come with a kitchenette.  And a bathroom that includes tub/shower.  So no bed, no couch or tables etc.  And residents have to buy or seek out their own food.

 

At Johnson, the suite comes with a bed, a fridge, and you get free food.  Common showers.  The price is $375.

 

Why have we decided the price should always be $375?  Why not $406 or $511?


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