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#12561 spanky123

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Posted 27 April 2017 - 02:47 PM

^ Hmmm. I wouldn't bet against an organization with unlimited funds. It could be trashed every day of the week and the Government will step up with more money to keep fixing it.

 

The only thing that will ever shut down 834 is public pressure. 


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#12562 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 27 April 2017 - 02:52 PM

Ya, I can't see it going, the government owns the physical building, not PHS.  But yes, pressure might work, pressure got Cool Aid moved from Swift St. to Rock Bay



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Posted 27 April 2017 - 03:41 PM

Public pressure will move it as happened with Cool Aid. The government will buy another motel somewhere on the edge of downtown to house these folks and after a multi-million dollar refit Central Care will reopen as a dry shelter without a no eviction policy.
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#12564 A Girl is No one

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Posted 27 April 2017 - 06:14 PM

I don't know....someone from CCH has already killed an innocent bystander.... You'd think if anything was going to put pressure on govmts, it would be a gratuitous random murder.....

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#12565 Dietrich

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 07:47 AM

This direct to me from an 834 owner:

 

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The proposed fence in front of 834 did not get approved. We essentially voted against it as it was a very costly expense for a temporary situation. The common feeling is that 844 will not be able to sustain itself and will be gone by 2018x

 

Sounds like a case of wishful and overly optimistic thinking


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#12566 Karma2017

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 08:01 AM

I don't know....someone from CCH has already killed an innocent bystander.... You'd think if anything was going to put pressure on govmts, it would be a gratuitous random murder.....

That's the problem a lot of people don't connect the dots that that person who killed that other person is from the central care home... Same with all these drug addicts being the cause of all these problems people just refuse to want to see the connection or just blame the drugs and are complicit in these people denial and help them make excuses, say, no it's the drugs that make them do it...I don't care the reason if you're that out-of-control you belong in jail cuz you're a danger to everyone... theyre so much in denial it's unreal
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#12567 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 08:11 AM

We were "unlucky" in that the dead guy is an anonymous out-of-towner.    


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#12568 Dietrich

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 08:42 AM

I passed through Centennial Square last night past a pack of rough looking folks blasting rap under the lit covered area along Pandora while the stage was hosting a few skateboarders on one side and some homeless folks with shopping carts and a stack of large blue Tupperware bins in the corner on the Starbucks side.  In the daytime this area tends to filled with stoner kids which has me wondering which 'group' (for lack of a better word) was involved in the incident yesterday.

 

Mostly though I wonder if Lisa had a good view of the scene from her office as it went down. 


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#12569 lanforod

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 08:45 AM

Sounds pretty vibrant...

#12570 Nparker

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 09:23 AM

...I wonder if Lisa had a good view of the scene from her office as it went down. 

She was probably sponsoring the "event".


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Posted 28 April 2017 - 05:11 PM

I don't know....someone from CCH has already killed an innocent bystander.... You'd think if anything was going to put pressure on govmts, it would be a gratuitous random murder.....

That's the problem a lot of people don't connect the dots that that person who killed that other person is from the central care home... Same with all these drug addicts being the cause of all these problems people just refuse to want to see the connection or just blame the drugs and are complicit in these people denial and help them make excuses, say, no it's the drugs that make them do it...I don't care the reason if you're that out-of-control you belong in jail cuz you're a danger to everyone... theyre so much in denial it's unreal

What/when was this murder??


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Posted 28 April 2017 - 05:11 PM

Welfare Wednesday this week was the highest OD calls ever for one day in the province. 130. Spring is in the air!
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Posted 28 April 2017 - 06:13 PM

What/when was this murder??


November. The french canadian young man who was stabbed in front of the McDonalds on Douglas. Completely random and unprovoked thing. The homeless guy went after him and chased him for a block then slit his carothid artery. Yes, lucky for the city/province that the kid was from out of province. If the family had any idea of the precarious situation they created in downtown Victoria, they would have made a huge stink.

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 06:31 PM

I don't know....someone from CCH has already killed an innocent bystander.... You'd think if anything was going to put pressure on govmts, it would be a gratuitous random murder.....


Yes it likely would... IF it got any media coverage. Did any media even report this detail? (Assuming it has been verified)

#12575 Mike K.

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 06:33 PM

I think they sidestepped that detail for the most part.
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Posted 28 April 2017 - 06:47 PM

I think they sidestepped that detail for the most part.


In that case, I think it's fair to point out that, if the killer was a CCH resident, then any reporter who didn't make that fact clear did not do their job. No grey area. Given the situation and the community concerns around tent city and cch, there is no way a responsible reporter or editor would have omitted or downplayed it.
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#12577 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 06:57 PM

It's pretty much unheard of for a suspect in any case to have their home address published by the media, outside of a domestic case.  And police will not release it.  And PHS certainly won't.   



#12578 Mike K.

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Posted Yesterday, 06:50 AM

They'll announce gang ties or criminal affiliations, but mentioning that someone has ties to Victoria's street community seems to be a topic they like to avoid.

From the last piece Ms DeRosa penned for the TC, the only mentions we have related to the suspect are:

"It’s still unclear what led the man to stab Bussières in the neck, but Lachance said it was random and unprovoked. Bussières was taken to hospital, but died two days later."

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"A 27-year-old man, Justin Michael David Carte, has been arrested in connection with the death. He is charged with aggravated assault, but Crown counsel will upgrade the charge to manslaughter or murder now that Bussières has died. Carte’s next court appearance is scheduled for Dec. 19." - http://www.timescolo...world-1.3665944

In other articles there was absolutely no reference to the fact the killer was panhandling, had lived on the streets nor did the articles reference his extensive record. It's like in the TC's coverage the man was the victim's equal in every way.
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#12579 spanky123

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Posted Yesterday, 05:02 PM

Welfare Wednesday this week was the highest OD calls ever for one day in the province. 130. Spring is in the air!

 

That is crazy. It seems that the more money we pour into low barrier housing and the more access we provide to needle exchanges and drug dens, the higher the number of overdoses. Who could have guessed that.


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