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#12921 Nparker

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Posted 03 August 2017 - 02:38 PM

...If there's fentanyl in there you'd think the tree would be growing a foot a day, no?

Only if there's a naloxone shrub nearby.


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#12922 mbjj

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Posted 04 August 2017 - 06:38 AM

A lot of the little salal (I think it is) shrubs are dying as well.



#12923 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 04 August 2017 - 06:42 AM

Some trees don't take. It's a bit of a tricky art, transplanting.

Although I've never been a landscaper.

I did do a few days labour for a landscaping company once though. It was pretty hard work.

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#12924 Mike K.

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Posted 04 August 2017 - 06:49 AM

Trees take if they're transplanted properly, are cared for properly and have proper growing conditions. It's not difficult stuff, but if they're not handled well or receive a shock during the transplant (i.e. disturbed roots, too much fertilizer, not enough water) they could wither away and die, or they could recover and get back to doing what they do by next spring.

 

This is why the younger the tree the better it will fare when transplanted.


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#12925 lanforod

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Posted 04 August 2017 - 07:20 AM

lack of water would be a big problem the past few weeks. trees need a lot of water, especially transplanted ones


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#12926 Mike K.

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Posted 04 August 2017 - 07:39 AM

Wouldn't that green space have automatic sprinklers? Maybe not?


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Posted 04 August 2017 - 07:40 AM

Ya it does.
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#12928 lanforod

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Posted 04 August 2017 - 07:40 AM

Wouldn't that green space have automatic sprinklers? Maybe not?

 

Probably. Do they give enough water to new trees? I doubt it.


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#12929 A Girl is No one

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Posted 04 August 2017 - 05:30 PM

Interesting new concept to help homeless/drug addicts: abstinence and work... crazy!!!!

http://vancouversun....-in-vancouver-2
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Posted 04 August 2017 - 07:25 PM

Interesting new concept to help homeless/drug addicts: abstinence and work... crazy!!!!

http://vancouversun....-in-vancouver-2

Unfortunately that will never catch on, no money in it for the poverty pimps.


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#12931 A Girl is No one

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Posted 04 August 2017 - 08:50 PM

"The provincial government spent $3 million in legal fees and site cleanup after homeless people camped on the Victoria courthouse lawn last year."

http://www.timescolo...n-up-1.21572945

#12932 Midnightly

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Posted 04 August 2017 - 11:57 PM

Interesting new concept to help homeless/drug addicts: abstinence and work... crazy!!!!

http://vancouversun....-in-vancouver-2

 

 

it makes me think it's a much larger scale with the same ideas used at Anawim house or woodwin farm, structure, helping those at need, providing work to keep busy, no drugs, rules to follow..

 

there needs to be more places like that... a clean and sober house, a place where people can attend some sort of clean living program, work and be part of society (even if it's just busy work to keep the hands from being idle).. no more low barrier


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#12933 Mattjvd

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Posted 05 August 2017 - 01:00 AM

Interesting new concept to help homeless/drug addicts: abstinence and work... crazy!!!!

http://vancouversun....-in-vancouver-2

Sounds like a great programme, I hope they're able to get the site they need in Vancouver.

I wonder if something similar would work here? Maybe even a more rural option, running a farm on the peninsula?


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#12934 Sparky

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Posted 05 August 2017 - 06:02 AM

Sounds like a great programme, I hope they're able to get the site they need in Vancouver.

I wonder if something similar would work here? Maybe even a more rural option, running a farm on the peninsula?

 

https://www.woodwynn...woodwynn-farms/


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#12935 Mike K.

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Posted 05 August 2017 - 06:11 AM

Two days ago I saw a woman walking past the mess at Reeson Park (foot of Yates Streets) as cops were standing by watching folks get their act together (never mind they have to be out of there by 7AM, it was 7:30 and the folks were [as usual] unhappy when reminded to get on).

 

So as this woman walks by, you can see the look of disgust on her face, but she keeps walking. Then suddenly she stops, turns around and marches back towards the cops and begins berating them while pointing at the mess before her. The cops just stood and looked on.

 

This lady had had enough and she wasn't afraid to show it or get in the cops' face over it. Election time is going to be very, very interesting.


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#12936 A Girl is No one

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Posted 05 August 2017 - 06:56 AM

https://www.woodwynn...woodwynn-farms/

Important to note that our governments are not giving a penny to Woodwynne farms or Anaheim house.

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Posted 05 August 2017 - 07:21 AM

 she stops, turns around and marches back towards the cops and begins berating them while pointing at the mess before her. The cops just stood and looked on.

This lady had had enough and she wasn't afraid to show it or get in the cops' face over it. Election time is going to be very, very interesting.

Sounds like she has a mental illness too .

Berating cops for doing their job like its their fault.

She should be marching her berating attitude over to City Hall and asking to see the boss.


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#12938 Mattjvd

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Posted 05 August 2017 - 07:25 AM

https://www.woodwynn...woodwynn-farms/


Thanks for the link, Sparky. I had no idea this was here.

#12939 Mike K.

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Posted 05 August 2017 - 08:10 AM

HB, honestly, why even bother with such a statement? She has every right to express her feelings to the police. They're the frontline workers who do the mayor's bidding. If you don't agree, reconsider the relationship between the mayor and the police.

And take a two week vacation from this forum. We need a break from this stuff.
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#12940 Nparker

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Posted 05 August 2017 - 08:11 AM

Thanks for the link, Sparky. I had no idea this was here.

For some reason it doesn't get nearly the press that Our Place, and the various other homeless "shelters" get. Perhaps Woodwyn needs to hire a $150,000 year "community liaison officer".

As for Anawim House, I have lived around the corner from this facility for almost 20 years and I cannot recall a single incident where the police or an ambulance had to be called.

...Within two years Anawim* House was bursting at the seams. As basic needs were met at the house, within an alcohol and drug-free environment, the greater challenge of assisting the poor to address the wounds that had put them out on the street – abuse, betrayal, addictions and emotional and mental illness – needed to be addressed. If the Anawim were to again function in mainstream society, they would need to heal within a loving family, learn life skills in preparation for employment, upgrade their education, or return to school to learn a new trade...

...Anawim’s main support comes from individual donors. We are also very grateful for the support of the United Way of Greater Victoria, the Victoria Foundation, and the social service clubs and churches who support us...

 

* Anawim (pronounced ah-nah-weem) is a Hebrew word that means, “the poor who depend on the Lord for deliverance.”


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