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[Mixed365]

I'm glad we all agree on this. The finishing in Bayview One is top notch. Easily one of the nicest in Victoria. 

Marko is right - those solid core doors 

[rambaldi]

Any news on the the necessary land remediation?

[Victoria Watcher]

https://www.timescol...osed-1.24196268

[Barrrister]

After years of promising wonderful community facilities on this site as part of his his smos, Marish is now trying to make more big bucks here. Our city council never bothered to get firm commitments in writing and now will just ignore all the promises and give him even greater profits.

[Victoria Watcher]

prospects for more retail were never going to be good. so sure he wants more residential.

[Victoria Watcher]

text to go with my earlier link:


proposal to allow more than 1,000 rental units in at least four 26- and 30-storey towers in the area around the historic E&N Roundhouse will go to the City of Victoria this week.


The rezoning plan would add residential use to a portion of Bayview Place in the Songhees off the 200-block of Esquimalt Road, where it had not previously been planned.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 02 September 2020 - 06:38 AM.

[Barrrister]

He got approval for his first projects by promising to build public facilities such as a theater as well as stores. Actually he personal used these promises in trying to sell my wife and I a penthouse in one of the building. He spent at least twenty minutes detailing all the wonder amenities he was going to build. Glad we ignored his sale crap.Sadly I am sure that other buyers believed him.

[Victoria Watcher]

oh well. nobody can boldly predict the future. that’s the nature of speculative purchasing.

did you end up buying near centennial square to be near the theatre there?

[Mike K.]

Here’s our info from earlier in the year: https://victoria.cit...-bayview-place/

While there’s definitely huge demand for another grocery store in Vic West, it looks like Dockside might beat Bayview to the punch. In which case Bayview needs to pivot as you wouldn’t be able to sustain two additional commercial areas to the one already established at West Side Village.

[Barrrister]

Victoria Watcher: You are missing the point, perhaps intentionally, that his initial rezoning was built upon him providing community amenities. The city failed to properly secure these promises but they should not reward him with any further rezoning when he has failed to live up to his side of the bargain. 

[Mike K.]

In what year would this have been (the proposal to sell you the penthouse), Barrister?

[Victoria Watcher]

Victoria Watcher: You are missing the point, perhaps intentionally, that his initial rezoning was built upon him providing community amenities. The city failed to properly secure these promises but they should not reward him with any further rezoning when he has failed to live up to his side of the bargain.

I guess. council certainly does not need to approve his new proposal.

but I suspect they might.

[Casual Kev]

The prioritization of residential is no surprise if Focus wants to build anything viable in the foreseeable future. COVID-19 restrictions and the corresponding economic fallout will keep demand for commercial space down for a while. 

[Mike K.]

At the time Mariash was selling Bayview One, Roundhouse was only a distant dream. A near-decade later plans first emerged, like circa 2013-2014 for Roundhouse, and the concept wasn't approved until (maybe) 2015. Since then it has sat untouched while the remaining Bayview towers were completed (Encore and Promontory). Now Aquarra is on-hold with no specific date for a construction start.

 

I think it's safe to say whatever had been envisioned for Roundhouse back in 2005 when Bayview One was selling, or even in subsequent years after it completed circa 2011 and was still selling, would have been a very, very long projection into the future.

[aastra]

The way things are going I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the CoV's design advice produce a windowless 30-story slab with nothing but seafoam spandrel on the lower 15 stories and nothing but grey panel cladding on the upper 15 stories.

 

There would be some brick trim on the podium, of course.

[Nparker]

...There would be some brick trim on the podium, of course.

Of course today it might be yellow instead of red.

[Barrrister]

I talked with him I believe it was about three years ago. Which is fairly recent. The original approvals for these buildings also contained detailed plans for the development of the roundhouse. The two were interlinked. 

 

You are going to do the pro-developer dance so let me safe you the trouble.

[Rob Randall]

I think that this is a good project and many people have worked very hard to see this through.

My only concern is that the amenities actually be delivered as the consulting firm discussed. Developers seem to have a habit of digging holes in the ground and then whining to council about not being able to deliver what they promised.

 

Step up and collect your prize.

[Brantastic]

Very excited about the number of rental units coming to the area. Not so excited about what sounds like several nearly identical 26-storey towers (more upset about the lack of height variation, not the heights themselves).

[Victoria Watcher]

I talked with him I believe it was about three years ago. Which is fairly recent. The original approvals for these buildings also contained detailed plans for the development of the roundhouse. The two were interlinked. 

 

You are going to do the pro-developer dance so let me safe you the trouble.

 

interlinked or set in stone never to be changed?

 

we've seen changes like dockside green or even uptown or royal bay or whatever the thing was called city centre when it was at colwood corners.  stuff changes.