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[Baro]

Bike parking is required because it's something the city is trying to promote, more cycling. Mandatory car parking encourages car ownership/use, which is something that really doesn't need any sort of intervention to boost in our society right now and thus doesn't need any government intervention to promote.  If parking requirements were cleared from the books, developers would still build parking as many people demand it, it would simply legally allow buildings built for people who are interested in a parking-free or parking-reduced building.  We actually have cases of this in the city already, and it's a growing trend.  It of course makes more sense to include reduced or no parking requirements in areas where not owning a car is even possible.  A condo with no parking in langford isn't going to fly,  but one downtown or close to it on a transit and cycling corridor is absolutely doable.

[Mike K.]

It's also a business case for charging higher fees for the parking that is created while pricing some units lower than the competition that includes parking with every unit. Optics is key in this business.

I don't know of a single downtown condo building that doesn't have a parking wait list. People may gush over the bicycle thing but eventually they'll buy a car when they realise how limited they are the moment they feel like leaving downtown. Then they'll put their name down on said list and wait. Wait. Wait. Then they'll pay a premium to park their car in their own building that should have accommodated them in the first place.

[G-Man]

^ But that should be the developer's prerogative, not a requirement made by the City. If they can't sell their places with no parking then they will learn pretty quick not to do it again.

[Mike K.]

That's the thing though, they do, but only after a while do residents realize that they need a car after all.

The Railyards is a perfect spot for living without a car and there is plenty of on-street parking in the area. But downtown it's a different story and you'll likely have to pay for it.

Anyhow, maybe I'm wrong and at the Railyards demand for parking is lower due to its location. Who knows.

[jonny]

Parking is always an issue with multi-family housing. People try to downsize and think one parking spot will suffice, only to find that they still need (want) two cars. People's kids move back in with them. Young people start out with no car, but they get a better job and then decide they want a car.

[Mr.B]

That's the thing though, they do, but only after a while do residents realize that they need a car after all.

The Railyards is a perfect spot for living without a car and there is plenty of on-street parking in the area. But downtown it's a different story and you'll likely have to pay for it.

Anyhow, maybe I'm wrong and at the Railyards demand for parking is lower due to its location. Who knows.

 

The Railyards IS the perfect spot for living without a car, or very easily getting away with a single vehicle... along with alot of other buildings in Vic West from Bay towards the Songhees.

 

As for parking demand...

Funny how you mention 'plenty of on-street parking in the area'... Come on down to Vic West from 8-5 Mon-Fri, all that on-street parking is taken by workers at Harbour Place 1 & 2, Westside Village, the BWM dealership, and a very large portion of people who don't want to pay for parking downtown so park in Vic West and walk across the bridge.

 

The demand is from those who live in the surrounding communities and drive in to work downtown.

[Szeven]

The Railyards IS the perfect spot for living without a car, or very easily getting away with a single vehicle... along with alot of other buildings in Vic West from Bay towards the Songhees.

 

As for parking demand...

Funny how you mention 'plenty of on-street parking in the area'... Come on down to Vic West from 8-5 Mon-Fri, all that on-street parking is taken by workers at Harbour Place 1 & 2, Westside Village, the BWM dealership, and a very large portion of people who don't want to pay for parking downtown so park in Vic West and walk across the bridge.

 

The demand is from those who live in the surrounding communities and drive in to work downtown.

 

Aren't all of the spots along Tyee/Habour/Songhees 2 hour spots? If they just changed Wilson, I would think very few people would be willing to waste an hour a day juggling spots.

[Mike K.]

^yup, Vic West is littered with vehicles, but the area near Railyards after 5PM is generally free of commuters.

[thundergun]

The last 7 townhouses (of the whole development I believe) are well under construction with framing looking essentially completed. Not sure of the target completion date or how long these things take but I'd expect it to be sometime in the spring.

 

Also, this week excavation began on a new 4 story condo building which I think is being called Bond's Landing III (http://therailyards....ndslanding.html), which look quite similar to the previous phase.

[thundergun]

Foundation concrete pouring began today on Bond's Landing III. It looks to be about 2 floors down at the back end, potentially for two levels of parking. Not sure how Bond's II is setup.

[MarkoJ]

Foundation concrete pouring began today on Bond's Landing III. It looks to be about 2 floors down at the back end, potentially for two levels of parking. Not sure how Bond's II is setup.

 

Bond's II has one level of parking and a large storgage room below the parking level.

[2F2R]

I was hoping for a couple of "taller" buildings at the Bay Street end of the development ...

[KAS]

There are still two building to come after Bond's Landing as marked on the plans. 

[Mike K.]

March 23

 

[Nparker]

Is this the final phase?

[Mike K.]

No, there are at least two more buildings in planning.

[Kapten Kapsell]

Is retail planned for Bonds III or future buildings...?

[Mike K.]

That's a good question. I guess it largely depends on just how the last phases will interact with Tyee Road.

[Dr. Barillas]

Edited by Dr. Barillas, 24 March 2015 - 02:23 PM.

[KAS]

Mike K posted a more current site plan back on Pg 6 of this thread.    The one above is pretty old - pre 797 Tyee, at least.

Edited by KAS, 24 March 2015 - 05:21 PM.