Swans | Victoria | Pandora Ave. at Store St.
#141
Posted 17 February 2017 - 04:08 PM
I think Lantern District is a fantastic name for the west Pandora area that's not really Chinatown, but sort of is, and it's in Old Town, but then it's kinda Chinatown, so something meeting both names half way works.
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#142
Posted 17 February 2017 - 04:22 PM
I think Lantern District is a fantastic name for the west Pandora area that's not really Chinatown, but sort of is, and it's in Old Town, but then it's kinda Chinatown, so something meeting both names half way works.
I'm just not sure 1 block (more or less) needs a special designation, but as was stated before it's about as likely to catch on as LoJo. Most people will probably refer to this area as "by Swan's", lower Pandora (LoPa?), maybe the "Janion District", or most likely "near the bridge".
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#143
Posted 17 February 2017 - 05:18 PM
Everyone refers to the Hudson District as the Hudson District, we have the Legislative Precinct, and Antique Row we all grew up with.
I think Lantern District is a fantastic name for the west Pandora area that's not really Chinatown, but sort of is, and it's in Old Town, but then it's kinda Chinatown, so something meeting both names half way works.
Most city 'districts' are more than 1 block though :-)
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#144
Posted 18 February 2017 - 09:30 AM
If you think about it, calling that area the Lantern District is no different than calling Dockside Green by name, or the Railyards by name, or Bayview, or Roundhouse, etc. People love to be able to identify with a very specific area or refer to very specific areas.
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#145
Posted 18 February 2017 - 09:33 AM
The TC article says they'd like the new operator to keep on the current employees. Yikes, that might be part of the problem.
#146
Posted 18 February 2017 - 09:33 AM
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#147
Posted 18 February 2017 - 09:37 AM
So does the Citified article!
I never read Citified, my paperboy never delivers it on time it seems.
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#148
Posted 18 February 2017 - 09:40 AM
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#149
Posted 18 February 2017 - 09:42 AM
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#150
Posted 18 February 2017 - 08:51 PM
#151
Posted 18 February 2017 - 08:55 PM
A couple of experienced local operators have passed on this property already. With 15 years of deferred investment, siphoning of all profits, and a severely damaged reputation, it would take a massive reworking of property and concept as a whole to be attractive. I hear the university is offering zero for renovations and the lease isn't long enough to make the multimillion dollar upgrades a worthy risk.
Ya, probably. If the numbers worked, an operator like Strathcona Hotel might have some economies of scale to make it attractive. They know how to run pubs, a hotel and a liquor store.
But it comes down to lease terms, no doubt.
#152
Posted 19 February 2017 - 09:16 AM
Which makes it all the more likely a national hotel chain may step up. They'll have the cloud to negotiate a favourable lease once the pool of operators dries up.
My guess is it would take $1.5-million to full renovate the pub alone, plus more if they intend to rehash the exterior.
Is a stipulation of the partnership agreement an ongoing brewpub operation?
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#153
Posted 19 February 2017 - 09:35 AM
How could a national hotel chain run a hotel that has no parking?
#154
Posted 19 February 2017 - 09:42 AM
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#155
Posted 19 February 2017 - 10:30 AM
I hope this stays as a boutique hotel. I would be surprised if a national chain would want such a small property. And I think the name "Swans" should stay. It has a history. It's how the late Michael Williams used to describe his rethinking and redevelopment of the Buckerfield's warehouse building, turning an ugly duckling into a swan.
#156
Posted 19 February 2017 - 10:37 PM
#158
Posted 26 July 2017 - 08:49 PM
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#159
Posted 27 July 2017 - 10:52 AM
It smacks of desperation.
#160
Posted 27 July 2017 - 10:56 AM
I think they're trying to appeal to unsuspecting tourists.
No one I know has been there in the last few years - it's in need of a serious refresh.
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