Downtown Boundaries
#1
Posted 19 September 2006 - 10:43 AM
http://www.victoria.ca/cityhall/pdfs/downtown_wrkshp_edges2.pdf
http://www.victoria.ca/cityhall/pdfs/downtown_public_chrctr.pdf
#2
Posted 19 September 2006 - 11:21 AM
Downtown is downtown. Everybody knows what downtown is. Everybody knows it doesn't have a hard border around it. The people who want to categorize every single block (or portion of a block) as something distinct or exceptional are simply hardcore anti-development types. They want to define boundaries so they can cripple and contain the city's core area. That's their only motive.
Let the city be what it wants to be. Stop trying to corset it into something it isn't.
#3
Posted 19 September 2006 - 11:30 AM
I think that the city's idea is for zoning purposes. Where can we build a downtown type highrise and where should we not. etc etc
#4
Posted 13 November 2006 - 08:46 PM
Here's the lead:
Supporters see St. Louis's proposal for an 11-unit rooming house at 1537 Bay St. as a golden opportunity to create affordable housing units in downtown Victoria.
So now Bay Street a couple of blocks from Shelbourne is downtown? Absolute bullcrap.
This is yet another example of the false reality Victorians have constructed for themselves to further various political ends. On the one hand we've got people arguing against development at the Bay department store site or behind the Empress hotel because (they claim) those areas are NOT downtown, and on the other hand we've got people arguing for a rooming house in a residential neighbourhood near the Jubilee Hospital because (they claim) the Oaklands/Jubilee area IS downtown.
Absolutely absurd.
#5
Posted 13 November 2006 - 08:48 PM
#6
Posted 13 November 2006 - 08:50 PM
-City of Victoria website, 2009
#7
Posted 13 November 2006 - 09:23 PM
We need to market downtown, and in order to do that, we need a clear idea of what downtown is.
In my world, downtown starts with the buildings on the West side of Blanshard, starting at Belleville on the south side. It would go as far north as Fisgard. The western boundary would be the water.
I'm not downtown. I'm in the Harris Green neighbourhood, and part of the Antique Row shopping district.
#8
Posted 13 November 2006 - 09:29 PM
-City of Victoria website, 2009
#9
Posted 13 November 2006 - 09:40 PM
#10
Posted 13 November 2006 - 09:53 PM
I believe downtown goes as far west as Cook Street. If I have an appointment at my doctor in the professional building at Yates and Cook Streets, I say I am going downtown. I don't say Harris Green instead just because some bureaucrat decided to put stifiling borders around it.
In my head areas like North Park and Harris Green are a part of downtown because they are too close, too small, and not different enough to be something different.
#11
Posted 13 November 2006 - 10:20 PM
#12
Posted 13 November 2006 - 10:22 PM
^That's one of the smallest definitions of Downtown I've heard. That's not a criticism in any way--It's just interesting that 100 people will have 100 definitions.
If you can find any marketing materials promoting downtown from the City of Victoria, the old BIA or the new DBA that pictures anything outside those coordinates, and I'll give you a hero cookie.
#13
Posted 13 November 2006 - 10:28 PM
I also heard someone say...anywhere, where there is parking meters should be downtown. I think it was a member of the DRA who spoke this.
Anyways to confine it to that small area they have now is ridiculous.
That's my thoughts!!!
#14
Posted 13 November 2006 - 10:31 PM
-City of Victoria website, 2009
#15
Posted 13 November 2006 - 11:36 PM
#16
Posted 13 November 2006 - 11:49 PM
-City of Victoria website, 2009
#17
Posted 13 November 2006 - 11:50 PM
And just the other day, I overheard an employee at the Vic West Rona (Bay at Wilson) call out to a supplier and say "It's Deb at the downtown Rona..."
In any case, I agree with Galvanized's borders for downtown but I'd up my northern border to Hillside. That to me is the start of the business centre, what with the TC head office, the commercial district in the vicinity and the pending Rock Bay redevelopment at Bay.
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#18
Posted 13 November 2006 - 11:53 PM
Oscar Wilde (1854 - 1900), The Picture of Dorian Gray, 1891
#19
Posted 13 November 2006 - 11:54 PM
-City of Victoria website, 2009
#20
Posted 14 November 2006 - 12:01 AM
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