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#1 Kapten Kapsell

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Posted 24 November 2006 - 07:55 AM

Some changes underway in the 800 block of Yates Street:

1. A rezoning application has been submitted to the city for the "Empire Theatres" parking lot asking for an increased height allowance.
2. A public hearing was held last night on the proposed subdivision of the Telus property.
3. Tenants have been finalized for the Wave's retail space: ReStart Computer (previously anounced), and a travel agency (this will occupy the former construction office).

#2 Nparker

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Posted 24 November 2006 - 08:23 AM

Let's just hope that whatever ultimately gets built on the Empire lot and the space adjacent to Telus are classier in execution than The Wave, which personally disappoints me. I think the latter could have been and SHOULD have been better. I'll keep my fingers crossed for these new developments.

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Posted 24 November 2006 - 08:28 AM

The wave would have been fine if they had linked the ends of the ground floor with its neighbours.

So there should be one more tenant there right?

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#4 Nparker

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Posted 24 November 2006 - 08:42 AM

The wave would have been fine if they had linked the ends of the ground floor with its neighbours.


My problem with the Wave is not so much it's placement on the site, nor the basic design (though taller and slimmer would have helped), but it's the oh-so-bland street presence on Yates and the awful finishes (those tiles and painted concrete) that make it a bust for me. The other day I walked past it in the rain and the "mural" wall looked dreadful when all the dark (slate?) tile was wet. With a little more attention to detail it could have been a great addition to that part of the city. As it stands, it's only so-so at best (IMO).

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Posted 24 November 2006 - 08:53 AM

Seriously, is it a mural or a mosaic? I thought it was a mosaic? Everybody calls it a mural.

The commercial space in the Wave isn't "glassy fishbowl" enough, if you get my meaning. That's my main beef, other than the stretched mosaic. I think it's a pretty good building.

#6 aastra

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Posted 24 November 2006 - 08:59 AM

No one should construe any sort of endorsement of the commercial entities represented in this mockup:



#7 Nparker

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Posted 24 November 2006 - 09:03 AM

Seriously, is it a mural or a mosaic? I thought it was a mosaic? Everybody calls it a mural.


From Dictionary.com:
mural –noun
1. a large picture painted or affixed directly on a wall or ceiling.

mosaic–noun
1. a picture or decoration made of small, usually colored pieces of inlaid stone, glass, etc.

So I guess any picture on the outside of a building can be a mural.... it only becomes a mosaic if it is made up up smaller pieces of some solid material (stone, glass, tile etc.)

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#8 G-Man

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Posted 24 November 2006 - 09:04 AM

It is a mosaic with exceptionally large tiles. Murals are painted.

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Posted 24 November 2006 - 12:09 PM

Having had more time to look at The Wave, I've decided that I like it from the second floor up. The first floor sucks donkey balls through a straw.

The setback sucks, the finishing sucks, the design sucks, the height sucks, everything about it sucks.

My 2¢

Looking forward to what Jawl Development does to their corner...

#10 Kapten Kapsell

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Posted 24 November 2006 - 05:36 PM

Many of you are probably aware that ReStart Computer, which is under construction, subletted their space to a fireworks retailer for a few days around Halloween. The provincial police departments are currently putting pressure on the crown to ban all fireworks sales to the public.

No tenant has been publicly anounced for the space once occupied by Hollywood Tonight, but construction is slowly underway there.

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Posted 28 November 2006 - 12:19 PM

Interesting photo I found of the 819 Yates site of the proposed 20 storey tower on present day Capitol 6 parking lot. Can you say "contaminated soil"?!



There was another Texaco station just up the street in the Chrysler building at Yates and Cook.
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#12 Mike K.

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Posted 28 November 2006 - 12:25 PM

I glanced at the Downtown Resident's Association's newsletter the other day and I saw that there's a rendering of the Capital 6 parking lot tower. Reminds me of Shutter's taller building but at twice the height at Yates and a 10-storey portion meeting View.

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#13 aastra

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Posted 28 November 2006 - 12:26 PM

Last year our Christmas present was the Blanshard & Johnson project, yes? (Now known as the Juliet)

So do we have another present this year?

#14 Baro

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Posted 28 November 2006 - 12:30 PM

The Wave Mosiac and it's setbacks.
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#15 aastra

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Posted 28 November 2006 - 12:33 PM

In that old pic is that a 3 story building on the View Street side? (with the stack on top?)

#16 Rob Randall

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Posted 28 November 2006 - 12:34 PM

Here are some pictures of a rough massing model. It's placed beside an old model of The Wave for scale, so other neighbouring buildings like the Cap 6 theatre and 860 View aren't there. Remember, because this is just a rough model, the podium is just an approximation so don't take anything to literally yet.

There will be seven CRD-administered below-market housing units in the south side of the podium.





Looking west down Yates:



View Street looking south:





#17 Nparker

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Posted 28 November 2006 - 02:14 PM

intriguing models... I hope the final execution ends up being better than the Wave

#18 Mike K.

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Posted 28 November 2006 - 02:33 PM

That should have been dubbed "The Wave."

So in keeping with inappropriate names for our buildings, (the Wing also comes to mind!), let's called this the "Octogon."

Hello? Anyone?

*chirp*

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#19 aastra

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Posted 28 November 2006 - 02:43 PM

How about "Heritage Place"?

#20 m0nkyman

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Posted 28 November 2006 - 06:16 PM

That should have been dubbed "The Wave."


Call this one the Tsunami....

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