[Rockland - Victoria] 1322 Rockland Avenue condos | Proposed
#21
Posted 26 September 2007 - 11:10 AM
#22
Posted 26 September 2007 - 12:32 PM
As for 1322 I have not seen the current plans but I agree something has to be done there.
#23
Posted 26 September 2007 - 12:55 PM
#24
Posted 26 September 2007 - 02:19 PM
Their names are Maclure and Rattenbury.Shouldn't the architechs of today be given the freedoms that McClure and Rattanberry had?
#25
Posted 28 September 2007 - 08:55 AM
#26
Posted 28 September 2007 - 09:47 AM
-City of Victoria website, 2009
#27
Posted 03 October 2007 - 11:29 AM
I've merged the discussions from Heritage, and also one that I found buried here in the core. =)
Oscar Wilde (1854 - 1900), The Picture of Dorian Gray, 1891
#28
Posted 03 October 2007 - 11:36 AM
#29
Posted 23 November 2007 - 11:44 AM
Thank you.
PS I need these letters asap please as meetings ae being set up for early December.
#30
Posted 23 November 2007 - 12:40 PM
#31
Posted 18 September 2008 - 09:14 PM
-City of Victoria website, 2009
#32
Posted 13 March 2009 - 09:53 PM
Rockland Mansion Set to House Homeless
VICTORIA - Could a 10,000 square foot mansion built in 1894 be the next place Victoria’s homeless and mentally ill make their transition to a more stable life?
The answer is yes, if the city gets its way.
The Rockland area property is on track to become part of the city's strategy to house homeless people.
Nestled on the street that gives this upscale neighbourhood its name, the old mansion lies obscured from view. A “no trespassing” sign discourages unexpected guests.
But 1322 Rockland Ave. may soon be home to people who don't fit the residential profile, as the city considers turning the place into 35 units of supportive housing.
It's not a done deal yet, but one scenario might see the city, the Capital Regional District and the province kicking in the cash to fix it up and deal with the real estate issues.
Then, the Vancouver Island Health Authority might be tasked with running the facility.
Why Rockland? Victoria's mayor says it's up to all neighbourhoods to take responsibility for ending homelessness.
Plus, the area is no stranger to social services facilities: a recovery centre for alcoholics already exists on Pemberton Rd.
And it’s where the privately run Montreaux clinic used to operate.
Still, housing for the homeless a stone's throw from Government House, home to Lt.-Gov. Steven Point?
Victoria Mayor Dean Fortin says Point will be consulted, along with other neighbours in the area.
There's also a halfway house on Rockland Ave. one house East of Cook St.
#33
Posted 13 March 2009 - 10:11 PM
#34
Posted 13 March 2009 - 11:41 PM
A-Channel reports:Rockland Mansion Set to House HomelessVICTORIA - Could a 10,000 square foot mansion built in 1894 be the next place Victoria’s homeless and mentally ill make their transition to a more stable life?
The residential detox center on Pemberton St is small (10 residents at one time I think), tightly supervised, and fits into the area without any problem. But seems different then 35 housing units for the homeless/mentally ill (addictions) unless the plan calls for a supervised and secure facilty. Has that been clarified I wonder?
#35
Posted 14 March 2009 - 09:45 AM
We don't have the vulnerable residents that North Park and Burnside have, who are only one wrong step away from being homeless themselves. The neighbours around here have their own thing going, and are not likely to be sucked into any negative patterns the new residents might have. Because of this, the impact on the community will be much lighter than it would be if it was located in one of the poorer neighbourhoods.
And for the same reasons, the chance for the residents of the house to get away from their own street life is going to be much higher. This is a neighbourhood where people call the police if there is suspicious activity. It is far enough away from downtown to make the trek inconvenient but not impossible - another deterrent for hanging on to the downtown street life.
For anyone who has a mentally ill loved one, I know you would celebrate to see them housed in a place like this rather than trying to survive in the shelter system, side by side with predators, which is what is happening right now. I hope people who do understand what kind of struggle mentally-ill citizens go through will come out and speak for this at the CA.
Good for council for being pro-active about this, I hope they are able to show some leadership here and get this done.
Oscar Wilde (1854 - 1900), The Picture of Dorian Gray, 1891
#36
Posted 14 March 2009 - 10:56 PM
Incidentally, there's enough land around the buildings that you could even include a therapeutic farm or gardening component. Bee-keeping would be good, too. And maybe Bernard can consult on keeping chickens!
I would like to hear from the owner, though. Is she throwing in the towel after too many years of fighting the CA and the city in trying to develop the property?
#37
Posted 15 March 2009 - 12:20 AM
The neighbours around here have their own thing going, and are not likely to be sucked into any negative patterns the new residents might have. Because of this, the impact on the community will be much lighter than it would be if it was located in one of the poorer neighbourhoods.
I appreciate your comments in favour of this Cara - but I disagree that Rockland is 'more immune' to negative impact then any other neighbourhood in Victoria. Many of the old mansions are rental houses for singles, students and young families - struggling like everyone else. Children and teens in Rockland are as curious about, and vulnerable to, the drug culture as any other kids.
So whether it goes ahead or not - it will definately have an impact.
#38
Posted 19 March 2009 - 08:35 AM
If we are going to solve this, EVERY neighbourhood will need to take on some responsibility. The model we have been using where we dump services in the lowest income areas just cause they can't mobilize opposition, has been a dismal failure - locating services within a block of the lowest earning, highest welfare dependency census tract in Victoria, for instance. Rockland can do it's share, and it should. I know our community is one of the worst NIMBY power brokers in the city, but I believe that there are enough decent people here who will support this. They may even be some of those renters.
Oscar Wilde (1854 - 1900), The Picture of Dorian Gray, 1891
#39
Posted 19 March 2009 - 08:38 AM
http://www.timescolo...4233/story.html
Meanwhile, preliminary investigations are underway to transform one of Rockland's biggest and most storied houses into a similar type of centre providing beds for 35 people. VIHA says said it's been approached about running such a facility if the Capital Regional District and the city can secure it.
A number of years ago the mansion, at 1322 Rockland Ave., was home to a self-proclaimed baron from Oregon who talked his way into leasing it for $1 a year from the Anglican Church Women, the building's former owners. But the lease with Baron George von Bothmer zu Schwegerhof was cancelled in January 2004.
Built for Hewitt Bostock, founder of the Province newspaper, the mansion was used as a nursing home between 1950 and 1998.
Fortin said that as such, it retains its institutional zoning and wouldn't require rezoning if used as a transitional house.
Getting neighbourhood approval might be a battle though. The 2.2-acre site has been subject to a number of development proposals in recent years and Rockland residents have in the past opposed a plan for an 85-unit assisted-living complex there.
Oscar Wilde (1854 - 1900), The Picture of Dorian Gray, 1891
#40
Posted 19 March 2009 - 09:18 AM
Built for Hewitt Bostock, founder of the Province newspaper, the mansion was used as a nursing home between 1950 and 1998.
I used to visit a couple of old dears when it was the Caroline Macklem home.
Interesting. if gloomy, old pile.
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