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#4281 Mike K.

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Posted 22 January 2019 - 09:47 PM

Hi folks, not sure how the thread got locked but that looks like it was a mistake.
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#4282 RFS

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Posted 22 January 2019 - 10:06 PM

Swoop's launch was to coincide with the launch of Jetlines, which ended up delaying its launch by a year leaving Swoop in the midst of a union debacle that it didn't want to engage in in the first place if it didn't have to.

Flair is irrelevant to the big picture. Jetlines is approaching the market even more ambitiously than Westjet did back in the early 90's and that's got the old guard a little concerned, hence the sudden appearance of Swoop.


Maybe some day but as of right now everyone knows about flair and no one has heard of jetlines

#4283 shoeflack

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 10:54 AM

Flair is irrelevant to the big picture. Jetlines is approaching the market even more ambitiously than Westjet did back in the early 90's and that's got the old guard a little concerned, hence the sudden appearance of Swoop.

 

Are we talking about the same Jetlines that is 6 years now in the making and only has a firm commitment on 2 aircraft in its first year of operation? Not to mention how much trouble Jetlines had in securing aircraft to begin with (remember how their deal to lease four 737 Next Gen aircraft mysteriously died?). WestJet was in the air a mere 2 years after coming on the scene with 3 aircraft in the fleet and had 5 by the end of their first year. I'm not sure how Jetlines can be quantified as approaching the market more ambitiously than WestJet. Maybe pie in the sky ambition, but there's hardly any actual substance there.

 

I'll be happy to be proven wrong if Jetlines can actually succeed, but let's be clear; Jetlines is the irrelevant airline in the Canadian ULCC market at this point (right alongside FlyToo aka Enerjet). Flair is at least operational with a substantial fleet, including three lower cost 737 Next Gen aircraft.



#4284 Mike K.

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 11:52 AM

It's a different market today, for sure, but we have not seen as ambitious a push on the airline front in this country since Westjet. Take a look at Jetlines' board and its executive team. They're a serious contender and the reason for Westjet's response with Swoop. If Jetlines fails to materialize Swoop will fold, guaranteed, and Westjet will do exactly what it does with mainline routes competing with Flair: price match.


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#4285 shoeflack

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 12:31 PM

I think you're giving Jetlines far too much credit for the creation of Swoop. Swoop was arguably more about trying and break the pilots union than to compete with Jetlines. And if they were trying to compete with anyone, it was the already existing NewLeaf (Flair).

 

Jetlines is operating with $3 million in the bank, spending roughly $1 million a quarter, and has no revenue source (and haven't since they started spending money in 2013). That's just not sustainable. And their biggest challenge is ahead of them. That being, if they even get off the ground, somehow winning customers away from their now established competitors.


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#4286 Mike K.

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 03:40 PM

The fact that Swoop is unionized ensures it will not be a long-term play. It can't be with such expensive overhead and competition mounting.


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Posted 24 January 2019 - 12:40 PM

Fire crews are responding to smoke at the Viking Air facility.

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#4288 Nparker

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Posted 24 January 2019 - 12:53 PM

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#4289 Missed Approach

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Posted 30 January 2019 - 03:45 PM

YCD, Nanaimo Airport, has a great new view of the apron action from their website web cam.

 

Be cool to sit a watch the action on the ramp at YYJ, Victoria.

 

https://www.nanaimoairport.com/webcam/


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#4290 Mike K.

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Posted 30 January 2019 - 04:16 PM

I guess the oval runway helps with landings?


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#4291 Kilo95

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Posted 30 January 2019 - 06:30 PM

YCD, Nanaimo Airport, has a great new view of the apron action from their website web cam.

 

Be cool to sit a watch the action on the ramp at YYJ, Victoria.

 

https://www.nanaimoairport.com/webcam/

 

At least YYJ has switched the webcam view on the terminal construction to the interior now, so we aren't stuck looking at the roof anymore.


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Posted 30 January 2019 - 10:59 PM

At least YYJ has switched the webcam view on the terminal construction to the interior now, so we aren't stuck looking at the roof anymore.

Still a 20 something seconds of blur …. so I turn the speed down to one quarter time. But they also capture the weekend when no work is happening.



#4293 Missed Approach

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Posted 30 January 2019 - 11:20 PM

Jazz ran out of Q400's and sub'd a CRJ900 for the last flight to YYJ tonite....

 

https://flightaware....0712Z/CYVR/CYYJ


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Posted 08 February 2019 - 08:27 AM

Because this is where all of the airline talk seems to land: Canada Jetlines has reversed course, will be switching back to YVR as home base. They had previously moved operations to YXX in Abbotsford. Both Flair and Swoop provide service out of YXX. YVR is served by Flair only with flights to Calgary, Edmonton, Kelowna, Winnipeg, and Toronto. 


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#4295 Mike K.

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Posted 08 February 2019 - 08:28 AM

Hmmm. Sounds pretty ambitious. Makes you wonder if they have something up their sleeves.

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#4296 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 08 February 2019 - 08:45 AM

air canada has sacked georgian air.

 

https://nationalpost...ncerns-a-factor


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#4297 shoeflack

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Posted 08 February 2019 - 08:48 AM

re: Jetlines, I think the quote from Swoop President Steven Greenway pretty much sums up most industry enthusiasts' thoughts on the matter.

 

“For me, they’ll become serious when they launch,” he said. “Until they actually start flying, it is a moot point for me.”



#4298 LJ

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Posted 08 February 2019 - 07:38 PM

The only thing Jetlines has done well and often is make announcements.


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#4299 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 11 February 2019 - 01:18 PM

Dozens forced to sleep at Victoria airport as snow halts flights

Flight cancellations, full hotels and closed highways leave travellers without options, or beds

https://www.nanaimob..._medium=twitter

 

As many as 70 people slept at the Victoria International Airport Sunday night after most flights were cancelled because of the snowstorm.

 

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a couple more photos too.  if you click through.  always take your yoga mat!


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#4300 Mike K.

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Posted 11 February 2019 - 01:22 PM

A whole bunch of flights have been cancelled today.


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