Rock Bay - the next master-planned development
#41
Posted 15 December 2006 - 09:45 AM
With the exception of coming into Vancouver along Hwy 7 / Hastings Street. Every entrance into Downtown is impressive.
#42
Posted 15 December 2006 - 01:40 PM
The buildings will be low profile with urban open space linking the buildings and in turn linking the buildings to the waterfront. This option will include landscaped street setbacks (3-4 m).
ENOUGH with the setbacks!
#43
Posted 15 December 2006 - 01:42 PM
Take every recommendation in this report and do exactly the opposite and you'd have a home run.
#44
Posted 15 December 2006 - 01:46 PM
#45
Posted 15 December 2006 - 01:50 PM
I feel like Joe Public is screaming for positive change and yet the powers that be are doing everything they can to keep things mired.
#46
Posted 15 December 2006 - 02:04 PM
The Burnside Neighbourhood Plan indicates that the Douglas/Government Street area is significantly short of park or open space.
No kidding? Damn, we should stick a park there. Or maybe some open space, with benches. People like open space with benches.
The Burnside Neighbourhood Plan needs a reality check.
#47
Posted 15 December 2006 - 02:05 PM
Increase the amount and quality of public open space in Rock Bay.
Folks, who the heck is going to make use of this open space you keep talking about??
Are we seriously suggesting the reason north downtown turns people off is because there aren't pocket parks and places to sit??
WHY WOULD ANYBODY WANT TO SIT THERE?
Good gravy.
#48
Posted 15 December 2006 - 02:06 PM
#49
Posted 15 December 2006 - 02:10 PM
The Burnside Neighbourhood Plan indicates that the Douglas/Government Street area is significantly short of park or open space.
What were the criteria for making this determination? Just because a particular district doesn't contain a public lawn or a lousy little square with benches doesn't mean it NEEDS a public lawn or a lousy little square with benches.
They're taking the northern part of downtown and trying to de-downtownify it. It would be much easier and much more sensible to build it up into an appealing extension of downtown proper.
No offense to Burnside, but one Burnside is enough. Why on earth do we need to grow that particular neighbourhood into the heart of downtown? Is it such a shining example to follow?
#50
Posted 15 December 2006 - 02:14 PM
#51
Posted 15 December 2006 - 06:27 PM
Oscar Wilde (1854 - 1900), The Picture of Dorian Gray, 1891
#52
Posted 15 December 2006 - 07:24 PM
#53
Posted 15 December 2006 - 08:02 PM
Oscar Wilde (1854 - 1900), The Picture of Dorian Gray, 1891
#54
Posted 15 December 2006 - 08:59 PM
I'd be really happy with a fairly dense mixed-use live/work area that's targeted toward real working Victorians and students rather than the usual suspects.
I suspect the powers that be would feel mighty threatened by such a development, however.
#55
Posted 15 December 2006 - 09:39 PM
It's unfortunately though that neighbourhoods your describe - for the "blue collar folk" and artists, tend to evolve by mistake, organically rather than it being manufactured by a developer.
#56
Posted 15 December 2006 - 10:14 PM
Oscar Wilde (1854 - 1900), The Picture of Dorian Gray, 1891
#57
Posted 16 December 2006 - 10:27 AM
Not that there is anything wrong with yuppies, or plastic of course.
#58
Posted 16 December 2006 - 11:45 AM
Now in the long run, (and City Builders should always consider the long run) I can see this working, a bunch of high quality housing stock gets added to the city, the wealthy retirees die, the properties get flipped a few times and some of it begins to degrade and eventually trickles down to the lower end of the housing market. Shoal Point is going to make one beautiful slum one day, and an impressive ruin!
But in the short run, part of vibrancy is having those somewhat untamed, non-ideal tenants populating an area. When the buildings I manage were low end they were often rented to the "non ideal" blue collar batchelors, or crazy artists or students. Now, with the investment we've put into the buildings (new paint, new carpets etc etc) and the tight market, I'd lose my job if I looked for that kind of tenant. They are often noisy, and tend to do midnight moves or trash apartments, or be late on rent. Yet I think that the streetscape has suffered for it. While the new breed of tenants may spend more money on the street, they add less character and life to it, and they have a harder time mingling with the seedier side of the street life, a side of Victoria that has been increasingly pushed to Rock Bay.
Oscar Wilde (1854 - 1900), The Picture of Dorian Gray, 1891
#59
Posted 16 December 2006 - 03:54 PM
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Posted 23 January 2010 - 04:23 PM
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