David Foster Harbour Pathway | 2007 - ongoing
#61
Posted 30 April 2013 - 11:39 AM
#62
Posted 30 April 2013 - 11:47 AM
#63
Posted 30 April 2013 - 11:52 AM
It was the same with the Johnson Street Bridge. The folks in charge are definitely not opposed to change, despite what a lot of people might think. The puzzle is understanding why the high-profile changes that they support are acceptable even while other comparatively minor changes are out of the question.But they are fine with tearing up the lawn of the Leg...
#64
Posted 30 April 2013 - 12:52 PM
This will move all of the traffic back to Superior.
#65
Posted 30 April 2013 - 01:10 PM
#66
Posted 30 April 2013 - 02:04 PM
I wonder if the sculptor who gave us Bastion Square's 'Commerce Canoe' is in on this?
#67
Posted 30 April 2013 - 02:14 PM
#68
Posted 30 April 2013 - 02:18 PM
http://www.victoria....ce Concepts.pdf
Check out the plan for Ship's Point. If I were among the folks who put on gigs there currently, with a portable stage in place right where the "landmark columns with fiddlehead capitals" are proposed, I would be very concerned about the loss of functionality.
#69
Posted 30 April 2013 - 02:22 PM
#70
Posted 30 April 2013 - 02:49 PM
#71
Posted 30 April 2013 - 08:30 PM
Ships Point - No words for how terrible this is!!!
Laurel Point - Orcas? Really? Why not have a giant cup of tea too!
Barclay Point - Built part is nice but where the hell did that forest and grass come from?? This location should be urban not some nature park.
Bastion Square - That is really the best you could come up with? What happened to that terraced steps plan from a few years ago?? That alone is better than all of these.
Canoe Club - See Ships Point.
#72
Posted 30 April 2013 - 08:35 PM
the extension from JSB to Barclay point can wait. that area is a long ways off from proper gentrification and creating a pedestrian way is unlikely to be the instigator...this isn't the highline in NYC we're talking about here.
First - i think this should be implemented
http://www.fdarc.ca/...=content-574775
it doesnt need to be the market concept as originally envisioned, it can be a retail and office complex. add an additional floor (cue gasps of disbelief) and you have 3 floors of office and 1.5 floors of retail. the open courtyard in between would attract plenty of footfall with the right tenants and is a good way to combine commercial and leisure use of the space.
with good restaurants and fresh food shops on the ground floor, this would create a 7 day a week activity centre. the extended boardwalk can be used for small scale events in the summer and on weekends.
have a bar on the lower floor (by bar i mean pub style joint not a night club) and it extends the use of the complex throughout the day and week.
city can't afford to develop this. negotiate the ownership from whatever parties you need to deal with. sell the land on a ground lease structure to a private developer on a 99 year lease with income to the city tied to the gross revenue of the property. city gets the land developed for free and a continual, though probably not overly significant, income stream
parking lot 2 (by ships point) - continue with redevelopment of float plane terminal.
if possible, build a raise platform for a courtyard/public space with a parking lot/drop off space for the float planes below. have a stair case/ramp descending to the float plane terminal and restaurants.
this keeps some parking spaces, creates public space, keeps the float plans and brings the public space closer to street level so it doesn't feel so desolate.
i don't mind the parliament idea, to be honest, but stage it. save it for a later date. the car parks are the major blight.
lastly - the area from JSB to the car parks. partly taken care of by the redevelopment of the northern junk buildings. City can take care of the rest
the cost o the above 'immediate' works would be substantially lower than $40M.
How to fund it:
private donations - do whatever they can to get some money from high net worths and whoever else in the door. appeal to civic sense of pride, i think some money could be found for finally doing the works that should've been done ages ago
city lottery - can the city put in place a special purpose lottery. portion of the funds goes to a winner. city wide? island wide? province wide? sell tickets at the various ferry terminals, float planes, airports.
every dollar a downtown land owner spends on tickets, it gets 10 cent rebate on its land tax (anything to sell more).
seek all possible federal and provincial moneys - and actually work at this.
#73
Posted 30 April 2013 - 08:40 PM
#74
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#75
Posted 01 May 2013 - 05:10 AM
^ Baconbits for council!
Geezus baconnbits, that is one of the most profound posts that I have read on this forum.
What else have you been mulling over? I agree with G-Man.
#76
Posted 01 May 2013 - 05:16 AM
Uh-oh. Sounds like the Centennial Square 'revitalization' writ large.
I wonder if the sculptor who gave us Bastion Square's 'Commerce Canoe' is in on this?
Or maybe the "artist" that gave us the mound of twisted metal in front of the Save on Foods Arena?
#77
Posted 01 May 2013 - 07:58 AM
Or maybe the "artist" that gave us the mound of twisted metal in front of the Save on Foods Arena?
For the record, I like the "Commerce Canoe" and many other public sculptures, but context is important. A whimsical piece might be really cool in a modern airport, but perhaps not so much within a postcard view of ivy-covered Edwardian buildings. You don't see the Empress decorating its front lawn with musical sculptures and such....
#78
Posted 01 May 2013 - 11:13 AM
#79
Posted 01 May 2013 - 11:25 AM
I'd rather have the money spent on a co-op ad campaign with a major promoter like Atomique to bring a big music festival here, that would use many existing venues, and done in the off-season.
#80
Posted 01 May 2013 - 11:42 AM
IT'S GREEN SPACE, DEAN! Somehow a Symphony Splash picnic just doesn't feel right sitting on concrete. BTW, who does the lawn belong to? If its part of the ledge then it belongs to the people of BC. Yes Dean, even those in Salmon Arm and Fort St. John.
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