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[Nparker]

New job posting requirements coming into place on November 1.

www dot dailyhive dot com/vancouver/bc-employers-wages-postings

https://dailyhive.co...-wages-postings

[spanky123]

I don’t have an issue with this. Companies are free to post whatever ranges they want and most people already discuss compensation if that is their bias anyways.

The intent of this law is to eliminate wage discrimination as the Province feels that small business exists to exploit employees and screw customers.

This will finally put the wage disparity argument to rest and we can finally stop talking about it.

[Nparker]

I agree. Of all the hair-brained pronouncements made by the NDP since 2017, this one is pretty much bald.

[Matt R.]

Yeah, total nothingburger.  You can just post the pay range is $17-$80 per hour and you meet the requirements.

[Mike K.]

StatsCan says per capita GDP is falling, and we are a decade in arrears if per-capita GDP were to grow by 1.5% per annum, just to return to pre pandemic levels of productivity/prosperity.

[dasmo]

All part of the plan… from the Great Reset:

“With the pandemic, disaster-like macroeconomic outcomes – in particular exploding unemployment levels and plunging GDP growth – happened in March 2020 over the course of just three weeks. COVID-19 inflicted a crisis of both supply and demand that led to the deepest dive on record for the global economy for over 100 years. As the economist Kenneth Rogoff warned: “Everything depends on how long it lasts, but if this goes
on for a long time, it’s certainly going to be the mother of all
financial crises.” [​ 27]
The length and acuteness of the downturn, and its subsequent hit to growth and employment, depend on three things: 1) the duration and severity of the outbreak; 2) each country’s success at containing the pandemic and mitigating its effects; and 3) the cohesiveness of each society in dealing with the post-confinement measures and the various opening strategies.”

Edited by dasmo, 16 November 2023 - 09:45 AM.

[Mike K.]

Nihilism has interjected itself into government.

[Victoria Watcher]

Not enough local workers applying for jobs, some Island employers say

 

 

Some businesses, especially in food industry, worry they won’t be able to hire enough workers.

 

https://www.timescol...ers-say-9443678

 

 

 

B.C. Restaurant and Food Services Association president and CEO Ian Tostenson said the restaurant industry will be pushing for a sector-wide exemption for chefs and cooks hired through the temporary foreign worker program.

 

“We’ve heard from about a dozen restaurants and every one of them are really concerned about the potential changes.”

 

A number of sectors, including agriculture, construction and health care, are being granted exceptions in hiring limits.

 

Restaurateurs are always looking to hire local and often have no problem finding hosts and bussers, he said.

 

“It’s the skilled worker that we’re worried about,” he said. “There’s just not a lot of people that are wanting to be cooks and chefs in Canada.”

 

Over the past five years, hundreds of restaurants across Vancouver Island have used the association’s temporary foreign worker hiring services to employ workers from abroad, he said.

 

Tostenson estimates there’s a one in five chance that a Victoria-area restaurant has employees through the temporary foreign worker program.

 

The labour shortage is being partly caused by the fact that more people are retiring from the workforce than entering it, he said. “For every three people that retire in British Columbia, we’re only replacing two. We are a third short in our workforce.”

 

Wickaninnish Inn managing director and president Charles McDiarmid said that just under 20 per cent of the Tofino resort’s 180 employees are employed through the temporary foreign worker program.

 

McDiarmid said while he would love to hire as locally as possible, staffing has been a persistent issue at the inn since it opened in 1996.

 

Canadians aren’t always willing to relocate to a rural location, he said, noting that the resort had at least 10 unfilled positions this summer. “And you just don’t find a pastry chef around the corner in a small town.”

 

And the housing shortage isn’t helping, he said. “It used to be that three or four employees could get together and rent a house. Well, those now are vacation rentals.”

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 28 August 2024 - 02:41 AM.

[spanky123]

^ As Ottawa threatens to crack down on the TFW program I would expect more of this.

[Victoria Watcher]

I believe it is always a balance between a “worker shortage” and a reluctance for an employer to pay higher wages. Which there are both fair arguments to be made for.

If you pay your main chef nearly double her current salary, how much does that add to the table bill at a mid to high end restaurant? $5? $10? Let’s say she prepares 12 meals per hour. And you pay her $24 EXTRA per hour. My simple math says that only adds $2 to each persons bill. She now earns $50 or $65 per hour.

(I now await admonishment by Matt)

I know I have oversimplified it, but I think you see where I am going.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 28 August 2024 - 03:23 AM.

[Victoria Watcher]

Headline:

Not enough local workers applying for jobs, some Island employers say

Some businesses, especially in food industry, worry they won’t be able to hire enough workers.




Alternate:

Local employers do not pay high enough wages, many Island employees say

Some businesses, especially in food industry, should pay more in order to recruit and retain enough workers

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 28 August 2024 - 03:31 AM.

[Victoria Watcher]

Restaurateurs are always looking to hire local and often have no problem finding hosts and bussers, he said.

 

“It’s the skilled worker that we’re worried about,” he said. “There’s just not a lot of people that are wanting to be cooks and chefs in Canada.”

 

 

Restaurateurs are always looking to hire local and often have no problem finding hosts and bussers, he said, since the much higher minimum wage now has pushed those very unskilled jobs to remarkable wages, for the effort required.

 

“It’s the skilled worker that we’re worried about,” he said. “There’s just not a lot of people that are wanting to be cooks and chefs in Canada, with the low wages we pay.”

 

Wickaninnish Inn managing director and president Charles McDiarmid said that just under 20 per cent of the Tofino resort’s 180 employees are employed through the temporary foreign worker program.

 

McDiarmid said while he would love to hire as locally as possible, staffing has been a persistent issue at the inn since it opened in 1996.

 

Canadians aren’t always willing to relocate to a rural location, he said, noting that the resort had at least 10 unfilled positions this summer. “And you just don’t find a pastry chef around the corner in a small town.”

 

And the housing shortage isn’t helping, he said. “It used to be that three or four employees could get together and rent a house. Well, those now are vacation rentals.”

 

 

And the housing shortage isn’t helping, he said. “It used to be that three or four directors and presidents of hotels, or hotel owners, could get together and rent a house. Well, those now are vacation rentals.”

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 28 August 2024 - 04:59 AM.

[Victoria Watcher]

Of the 1,225 employer applications for temporary foreign worker jobs approved on Vancouver Island by the Canadian government from January to March, 858 were for a job that paid below the median hourly wage of B.C. workers, which was $27.50 during early 2024.

 

The most common employer application was for a cook position at 223 jobs, followed by kitchen support staff at 165 and “food service supervisors” at 153, according to data released by the federal government.

 

 

So while they want to mostly pay these semi-skilled and skilled kitchen workers less than $27.50, for the most part, the bussers and hosts already make at least $17.40 per hour.

[Nparker]

...the bussers and hosts already make at least $17.40 per hour.

With expected tips starting at 15% on top of that.

[Victoria Watcher]

Sometimes I laugh/shake my head going to a place like Earl's, and they have 2 or 3 young hostesses at the podium.  How many does it take to seat people at a restaurant where the hostess station has a view of nearly the entire place?  Hand them menus and send them on their way!

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 28 August 2024 - 06:11 AM.

[Mike K.]

And the housing shortage isn’t helping, he said. “It used to be that three or four directors and presidents of hotels, or hotel owners, could get together and rent a house. Well, those now are vacation rentals.”

Vacation rentals are banned now. They shouldn’t be operating. Maybe in smaller places where there are no restrictions in place? Tofino voluntarily joined the Airbnb exclusion.

[Victoria Watcher]

I just find the comment "why can't all of our skilled workers just rent a house and live together?" a bit out of touch, that's all.  You might not say the same about your company of plumbers or dental hygienists.

 

Now, you might say that about TFWs, because maybe by default or even by design, they do not generally arrive here with spouses, partners or kids to get in the way of that work/work balance the employer has in mind for them.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 28 August 2024 - 06:25 AM.

[Mike K.]

The food and hospitality industry is big into having housing for its workers. I guess the nature of the industry is you have annual staffing changes and having a place for them to live makes retention possible during busy periods? It is odd, though.

Matt?

[Victoria Watcher]

The food and hospitality industry is big into having housing for its workers. 

 

In resort communites, maybe.  Not in regular cities.

[Mike K.]

Are you sure? A lot of Victoria restaurant owners have houses they rent to staff, and whoever, but usually staff. I thought it was normal.