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[GaryOak]

My guess is that the loll in completions is a hold over from COVID when we did really know what was going to happen, so projects were put on hold for a while.

[Mike K.]

Yes, especially anything underway in 2020 as we figured out how to push on. By mid-2021 we seemed to have figured things out, but then material delays posed a problem.

[Citified.ca]

Amazon's home delivery failed in 2022, it looks like.

 

 

Zero homes delivered in downtown Victoria throughout 2022: Citified data

https://victoria.cit...-citified-data/

[Kapten Kapsell]

Mike, did Ironworks complete in downtown Victoria in 2022?

[Mike K.]

It completed in 2020, believe it or not.

[Kapten Kapsell]

Wow time flies!

I guess Yates on Yates and Vivid at the Yates were both in 2021, not 2022?

[Mike K.]

Yates on Yates was 2020, too, and Vivid 2021.

 

Hard to believe.

[IPH]

Although technically not directly in Downtown or Harris Green, Bellwood Park, The Beacon Arms and The Charlesworth are all only a block or two outside of that and were completed in 2022.

[Mike K.]

Yeah, there’s got to be a cutoff somewhere I’m afraid. In our database downtown is DT and HG, and the immediate opposite side of the street if in another neighbourbood (ie Nest and Haven still count, Charlesworth would not).

[IPH]

totally agree.  Was just suggesting the lack of completions in DT and HG in 2022 was probably not reflective of some major downturn in development applications 3 to 6 years before that.  They just moved around a bit.  

[Mike K.]

Yup, totally. There were also COVID impacts that slowed the delivery of Hudson House, which was originally supposed to reach occupancy in 2022. 2023 is going to be a big year, however. ~800 units.

[Victoria Watcher]

[Victoria Watcher]

 

[Mike K.]

It’s zero spots for the 34 households. Eight are visitor spots, one a car share. But I thought C. Thompson said it was approved with only 3 stalls?

[Nparker]

So all the residents of this building live car-free lifestyles, but nearly one-in-four of their friends and family do not?

[Barrrister]

The goal is to have young peoples lives be closer to the ideal of North Korea. We are getting there.

[GaryOak]

Sounds like the perfect place for me. Don't own or need a car, but one will be available for the occasional time I need to pickup a big item. I might be more in favor of more parking spots, if they allowed you to convert yours into hard storage area for extra stuff/bikes but I don't know of a single place that allows that conversion.

[Mike K.]

^i’m going to assume you’re young still? Wait until you’re 35 with a kid or two, and your tune will change. By that point you’ll be living in a SFD, outside of the core, and driving the kids to soccer practice, piano lessons and doing two trips to Costco a month.

The least we can do is to be honest about the demographics certain projects are targeting.

[GaryOak]

I'll be honest I probably won't ever have kids for a variety of reasons but even so the closet elementary is a 3 minute walk and a minute bike away and guess what once there are a certain age I'd be able to send them on their way by themselves to what ever thing. And if I can save 3-8 hundred dollars a month by now living from a car, I can put that money towards other things like buying food closer to where I live and even then the car share will still be there so Costco trips aren't out of the question.

[Mike K.]

Real life doesn’t work that way, I’m afraid.