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[Ms. B. Havin]

Letter to the editor in today's T-C, from someone who worked at Saanich Police for 23 years and supports the Con-Air initiative:

Cost of sending crooks home worth it
Times Colonist
Published: Wednesday, August 06, 2008

I spent 23 years on the front desk at Central Saanich Police Department.

When our patrols checked suspicious characters in residential areas in the wee hours of the morning, I ran the suspects on Canadian Police Information Centre and Police Information and Retrieval System.

It surprised me how many suspects had criminal records and active warrants from all across the country. Many were radius Ontario only or Manitoba only. Quite a few had outstanding warrants in nearly every province east of B.C.

I had the responsibility of informing each location where warrants were issued that we were in present contact with their wanted subjects. They advised the warrants were non-returnable. In other words, they did not want to pay to get their criminals back.

We have enough break-in artists of our own here in Greater Victoria. I wholeheartedly support the merchants who want to return out-of-province criminals to face the music in their own jurisdictions.

In fact, as a concerned citizen I will donate $100 to the Con Air fund and urge other break-and-enter victims to do likewise. It is not a perfect solution. However, it is better than becoming a haven for criminals from all across this great nation.

William Willbond

Saanichton

[Caramia]

OK, well that took the steam out of my anti-Saanich rant.

[Nparker]

The writer is from CENTRAL Saanich, not Saanich. There is a difference.

[Rob Randall]

DVBA:

CONAIR UPDATE

Late Wednesday afternoon the Solicitor General announced that the Province will make a one-time contribution of $10,000 toward the Victoria ConAir Program. While appreciative of this gesture, the DVBA is dismayed with thislevel of funding and the fact that it is labelled as a one-time contribution. Local businesses, residents of Greater Victoria, and the DVBA have contributed more than$26,000. DVBA Chair Darlene Hollstein says that “we had hoped that the Provincial Government would have contributed more for a situation which is directly affecting economic viability of downtown businesses and tarnishing the image of our provincial capital.”

The DVBA is looking to the provincial government to provide permanent funding for ConAir Victoria until such a time as the provincial and federal governments can close the loopholes associated with non-returnable warrants.

[Rob Randall]

Remember the "Con-Air" airplane rides for criminals facing charges back east?

The police were very happy about the first dude shipped -- an especially annoying character -- but after a few days in the lockup, back he boomerangs.

Why and how?

The Salvation Army, bless their hearts, paid for his ticket back on 'compassionate grounds' because his girlfriend had just given birth.

Same guy has a 10 year old son in Ontario he never sees but hey -- Victoria needs him!

Damn Christians.

This was a disappointment obviously, and we're not happy with other provinces giving a slap on the wrist to offenders who are causing so much havoc over here. But we can't let that be an excuse to give up on a promising program. If a suspect comes back ten times, we send him back 11 times until the message gets out that Victoria is not a cool place to evade justice and escape responsibilities.

Sometimes the birth of a child is the motivation that turns a person's life around for the good. Other times it's an opportunity to screw up yet another generation of children. Who knows what will happen here.

[Jason-L]

I'm fascinated by the mobility of these people. I find it hard to get over to Vancouver, what with the cost of gas and ferry tickets and all... but so many of these troublemakers can manage to hop across the country without apparently any issues at all. Weird.

[ted - 3 - dots]

This was a disappointment obviously, and we're not happy with other provinces giving a slap on the wrist to offenders who are causing so much havoc over here. But we can't let that be an excuse to give up on a promising program. If a suspect comes back ten times, we send him back 11 times until the message gets out that Victoria is not a cool place to evade justice and escape responsibilities.

Sometimes the birth of a child is the motivation that turns a person's life around for the good. Other times it's an opportunity to screw up yet another generation of children. Who knows what will happen here.

-------- fly him back 11 times ...? ---------

Like I'm sure he has lots of friend's back there ,
that he tell's STORIES to about how easy it is out here ...?????

give me a break ...!

Fly him to Sweden , and maybe he can get the kind of "drug-treatment" program he need's to stabilize his life...!

Sweden is far a head of us on drug-crime issues ....!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ted... ( Ps, Sweden is a long distance away from us ,
especially in terms of Our ZERO - INTOLLERANT Industrial-Prison way of thinking...! )


perhaps a clinical approach ...?


and who knows,
maybe the Swiss can offer him a job while he's there ...!

[Caramia]

It is a different form of travel, much cheaper, and sometimes easier than staying in one place. You can get across Canada on a Greyhound for about $200. You can hitchhike, go long distance through Craigs list doing gas sharing, and kind of hop from public transit to public transit for only a few dollars to cross an urbanized area. When you give up on deadlines, realise you might get stuck without anywhere to sleep, and accept being cold and uncomfortable, travel can actually be dirt cheap. Kind of more like hiking the West Coast trail, but in an urban environment.

[Baro]

It's cliche but they actually do still hop rides on freight trains.

[Caramia]

I've done that.

[ted - 3 - dots]

It's cliche but they actually do still hop rides on freight trains.

---- oh , give it a try & see how quickly you get busted ...! -----

The rail-car's are Harder to access than they've ever been ...!

At every-rail crossing ,,, ? is somebody in a automobile ,
and some of them have cell-phone's...!

doh ...?????


if people were trying to ride the rail's for free , there would be a higher death-toll...!
( some thing like in 1980's , before CN-CP changed rail-car security ....!!!!!!! )


we'd see reports of ,,, people with a foot cut-off ,
frozen bodies on grain-cars , stuff missing from box-cars, etc ...!


------ ted...


you know , it's all "Half-baked greezy dough-nut ball theory" ...!!!!!!

( unless you want to produce photo's of your-self , heading home to Ontario & and back )

my bet is on rail-road-security ...!

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( pasteurization came after the theory ) so my mind is always open ...!

got any "riding-the-rail's" type photo's ...? ( because I think that ended long ago )

and it's only a conspiracy theory right now ,,, but isn't the
"On To OTTWA TREK", responsible for our-Canadian social-safety-net ...!!!!!

( or is it all just bus-ticket's from here on in buddy )



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sorry to pick on you Bro .


it's not hard to pick up the phone ,
and check with some of the people who would know ...!


and ya ,,, they'd like to see the photo's ,
if you can create them , by YOU being there ...!!!!!




sorry

[Sue Woods]

I've done that.

I did as well - 1969 from Denver to Taos - Santa Fe Railroad. (Woody Guthrie comes to mind as I write this)

[LJ]

[quote name='Caramia']/. I don't like your idea of using litigation to force airlines (which are already suffering in today's climate) to pay for the program through offering free flights. quote]

Then are you against the government forcing airlines to provide free seats to fat people?

[martini]

Denial of B.C. funding could clip wings of Con Air program
Times Colonist October 13, 2009
http://www.timescolo...9623/story.html
A denial of funding by the province could ground Victoria's Con Air program.
Victoria police learned yesterday that their request for $10,000 from the province has been turned down, said Sgt. Grant Hamilton, Victoria police spokesman.[...]

[G-Man]

I am thinking this thread should be retitled to avoid confusion between cons in the air and Conair, a legitimate business: http://www.conair.ca...in&page_id=0001

[martini]

I am thinking this thread should be retitled to avoid confusion between cons in the air and Conair, a legitimate business: http://www.conair.ca...in&page_id=0001

Good idea. I had to spell it wrong to find it in search.

[VicHockeyFan]

Not to mention Conair....

http://www.conair-store.com/index.asp

[victorian fan]

Not to mention Conair....

http://www.conair-store.com/index.asp

Which has a nice selection of Travel Smart products.

http://www.conair-st...fort&HDR=TRAVEL

[Caramia]

Done