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[Nparker]

...Bring your totes and wash them once in a while. Adapt and overcome. Pioneer spirit what-what! You’ll live.

Why stop there? All urban dwellers should just farm their own vegetables, mill their own grain, spin their own wool, gin their own cotton, and butcher their own livestock, just like the pioneers did. Of course the smoke from all the wood fire cooking and heating appliances might not aid in the !!!  CLIMATE EMERGENCY   !!!, but this will be balanced off by the horse-drawn wagons* that will have replaced any and all manufactured vehicles.

* except on the streets of Victoria of course, as that would be inhumane

[LJ]

Yeh, those never get washed, do they? 

I've seen them and carts being steam cleaned.

[rmpeers]

Alas and woe! How ever did your mothers and grandmothers survive shopping and dealing with produce before plastic bags came around in the1960s? Bring your totes and wash them once in a while. Adapt and overcome. Pioneer spirit what-what! You’ll live.

So... okay... if I want to buy bulk nuts or trail mix, I'm doing what, putting a cup of them in a full size reusable grocery bag, which I'm now laundering ever time I go to the grocery store, and then how does the cashier weight the nuts? Or do I have to buy a whole bunch of miniature bags for every imaginable bulk purchase? Whay if I'm buying say bulk cinammon... Etc etc... just trying to actually think this through, because lord knows, city hall won't if they ever glom onto this idea.

[Mike K.]

Why stop there? All urban dwellers should just farm their own vegetables, mill their own grain, spin their own wool, gin their own cotton, and butcher their own livestock, just like the pioneers did. Of course the smoke from all the wood fire cooking and heating appliances might not aid in the !!! CLIMATE EMERGENCY !!!, but this will be balanced off by the horse-drawn wagons* that will have replaced any and all manufactured vehicles.

* except on the streets of Victoria of course, as that would be inhumane

Classic.

[Matt R.]

Why don’t you people just use the paper bags by the mushrooms for all this stuff. Jesus.

Matt.

[rmpeers]

Why don’t you people just use the paper bags by the mushrooms for all this stuff. Jesus.

Matt.

For some things, obviously, yes. For others, not so much.

[Mike K.]

How are you going to fit a dripping wet head of lettuce into one of those, smarty pants?

[jasmineshinga]

Wow. Such vehemence against the concept of thoughtful consumerism.

 

For the record, I buy my bulk spices and just *GASP* bring my own little tins to store them in. Tare is labelled on the side. Easy, fits into my spice drawer neatly, looks great. I bring a small basket with labelled glass jars to the shop, buy exactly what I know my pantry needs, and carry on with my day. Heck, some places give me a discount (Bulk Barn = 20% regularly) for bringing my own, which pulls my grocery costs down even further. For produce I have a small collection of cotton bags with drawstrings I keep in my daybag, fits all but the largest pumpkins, but I'm not likely to be hauling one of those home in my bag anyway.

 

Now this doesn't work as well if you're the "I'll just grab a few things on the way home" type of shopper, but then you'll just save a bit of money by not purchasing something the moment the thought enters your head. Less waste that way too.

[aastra]

 

How are you going to fit a dripping wet head of lettuce into one of those...

 

Which brings us back around to the inconsistencies.... the fundamentals of food safety are now going to be a thing only sometimes. Life-and-death business one moment, irrelevant the next. Because politics. But you better believe that you should be scared when you're commanded to be scared (when the next food safety scare story gets rolled out).

 

I think my main question would be this: all of those millions of times over the years and decades when a customer freaked out at a checkout clerk for putting double-bagged raw meat in the same bag as produce or ice cream or toilet paper or pretty much anything else, and all of those millions of times when a family member freaked out at another family member for doing same... are we going to pretend that none of that ever happened now? Will there be some retroactive declaration that nobody ever actually cared about any of that or did any of that?

[Mike K.]

That’s just it, right?

Meanwhile there isn’t a grocery store today that doesn’t have alcohol-based hand disinfectant at the door. We didn’t see that until a few years ago. But placing your tomatoes into a grimy basket, then onto a grimier conveyer is totally rational and perfectly normal.

I tell ya, we just don’t grasp how important plastic is to modern, urban society. Plastic keeps us healthy and safe, and it’s the cheapest, most efficient way of doing so. There are plenty of other options but they’ll all come at a cost, either financially or in health, or both.

[Matt R.]

How are you going to fit a dripping wet head of lettuce into one of those, smarty pants?

Lol!

Ok, you got me there. All this blubbering about mah spices and mah Brussels, just get on with it. It’s not difficult! Those paper bags make great fire starters too.

Matt.

[Nparker]

...those paper bags make great fire starters too.

Fire bad for climate.

[gstc84]

National ban on single-use plastics coming in 2021. https://www.cbc.ca/n...s-ban-1.5445611

[Nparker]

So I guess I'll just throw my non-recyclable garbage into the street instead of using plastic garbage bags.

[Matt R.]

Why don’t you buy compostable garbage can liners?

Matt.

[Nparker]

Why don’t you buy compostable garbage can liners?...

Mostly because they begin to compost before I can dispose of them.

[mbjj]

Why don’t you buy compostable garbage can liners?

Matt.

Too expensive. I'm damned if I"m going to use my food money towards something like that.

As for paper produce bags, yes that's what was used when I was growing up, but at that time, there were no bulk foods available. Everything like raisins, spices, rice, etc. was pre-packaged only so there was no need for bags for bulk items.

[FogPub]

Now this doesn't work as well if you're the "I'll just grab a few things on the way home" type of shopper, but then you'll just save a bit of money by not purchasing something the moment the thought enters your head.

I'm that type of shopper: if I need it now I stop off and get it now.  I wouldn't save any money doing it any other way - I still need what I need - and in fact the bag ban is costing me money as I now have to buy plastic bags for garbage that I used to get for free with the groceries.

[kxl]

This news will make some of you on this forum happy: plastic bags are free at Shoppers Drug Mart, Superstore, and Save-on-Foods starting tomorrow. Thank you, Covid-19!

https://vancouverisl...risis-1.4860576

[Mike K.]

About time. It’s shocking that it took this long for them to return to checkout counters.

All along we’ve been saying reusable bags are a health risk, as is the disappearance of disposable plastic containers and utensils (notwithstanding Trudeau washing his plastic fork).