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[aastra]

For worse, I'd say.

[aastra]

Development controversies in Columbus are pretty much word-for-word the same as development controversies in Victoria (and as in every other place, too).

 

Check out the comments for these:

 

https://www.columbus...er-building-bw1

 

https://www.columbus...g-buildings-bw1
 

https://www.columbus...-park-place-bw1

[aastra]

I'm liking the brick-and-glass wing of this project in San Antonio...

 

The building itself is too long, but I like the overall look of it.

 

[aastra]

I need to remind myself that 989 Johnson and Black-and-White both changed things up a bit re: the colour of the brick. So will 1400 Quadra and Chard's buildings between Yates/Johnson, right?

 

Lovers of quality masonry on new buildings can find some great pics here:
http://www.midisland....com/portfolio/

 

 

[aastra]

I really would have preferred some of that good stuff on the replacement for the Fairfield church.

[RFS]

Architectural revival in the Netherlands. Proof that "faux heritage" can work.

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[aastra]

Ah, but that's another place. Victorians will go to other places and gush about high-quality stuff like that all day long. But they don't want high-quality stuff like that in Victoria. (unless, of course, they don't realize the old-looking thing is actually a new thing, for example the Sticky Wicket building -- if they don't know the old thing is a new thing then it's acceptable)

[Nparker]

...if they don't know the old thing is a new thing then it's acceptable

[Hotel Mike]

I don't know where you got that picture, but it's BS. First of all the language is not Dutch. Second, the two views are not the same. And third, there is no way those buildings in the second shot were built within the past few years.

[RFS]

I don't know where you got that picture, but it's BS. First of all the language is not Dutch. Second, the two views are not the same. And third, there is no way those buildings in the second shot were built within the past few years.

This is in the town of Hoogeveen in northeastern Netherlands. The church on the right is the Hoofdstraat protestant church. I don't know when exactly the building in the after image was built but it was within the last 10 years. Not sure what the language has to do with anything?

[RFS]

I don't know where you got that picture, but it's BS. First of all the language is not Dutch. Second, the two views are not the same. And third, there is no way those buildings in the second shot were built within the past few years.

https://www.dvhn.nl/...www.google.com/

Article about the project from 2017

[Jackerbie]

[Jackerbie]

[Jackerbie]

There you go. Relatively same view, 10 years apart.

[Jackerbie]

You can also look at the development process from the rear street, as the Street Maps imagery has multiple data points: https://goo.gl/maps/8jop8fupSCnvNC72A

 

The 2018 photo is below, but you can also view 2009, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, and 2019.

 

[aastra]

I wish somebody in Victoria would settle this issue once and for all and either do a top-quality restoration of a defaced old building, or build a top-quality modern replica of a lost old building. Then we'd know for sure whether this is something to be worried about. The modern wing on the Sticky Wicket strongly suggests to me that the perils have been greatly exaggerated (if you spend the money and do the job well, I mean... obviously cheap faux crap remains cheap faux crap).

 

Anyway, I'm talking some smallish project somewhere around town, just to serve as a guinea pig. I'm not talking a huge job like this one in Budapest*. Just check out that before-and-after image...

 

Another before and after...

 

And another...

 

*in Hungary**

 

**in Europe

Edited by aastra, 04 December 2019 - 03:49 PM.

[aastra]

I didn't realize the "old" building in Budapest that they extended and completed with that new construction is actually less than 100 years old.

 

Context photo from the 1920s...

[Nparker]

Budapest has done a remarkable job of erasing its communist era architecture and restoring its Beaux-Arts beauty.

[aastra]

Or as in this case, creating it outright.

[Rob Randall]

I always say that architecture should be true to its own age, and that modern "PET" building in the Netherlands that was torn down to make way for the pastiche had all the textbook elements for success: tile ground floor, brick above, granularity. Yet it's not as inviting as the new antique style.

 

But I hate the idea of making fake old buildings because that calls into question any actual heritage buildings. Is it all fake, a tourist might ask.