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#221 Midnightly

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Posted 07 May 2019 - 03:31 PM

A lot of packaging is very wasteful it seems. Far more packaging seems used than necessary for a lot of goods. Thankfully Amazon stopped sticking my boxes of diapers inside of other boxes... usually.

 

 

it could also be in part that canada post frowns upon packaging that are not plain brown/white.. packaging with imagery on it and words and labels.. i remember years ago standing behind someone in line having their package denied because of what it was packaged in



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Posted 07 May 2019 - 06:49 PM

I’ve been watching for hours in the background montages of single stream recycling something about it: https://youtu.be/5YaTpL8nl7c

#223 LJ

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Posted 07 May 2019 - 07:16 PM

The solution seems to be to eventually eliminate the amount of non-biodegradable packaging and products that we use, which requires utilizing massive amounts of paper unless somebody comes up with some sort of rapidly compostable plastic-y product that breaks down into inert compounds in the environment. 

 

I guess we better cut down the trees before they get taken out by forest fires?

 

I had an earth and ocean sciences prof at UVic say this problem would persist until bacteria evolved to be able to eat plastic (this was circa 2006-ish). 

https://www.xyleco.com/

 

http://www.worldcent...les/bioplastics

 

They are already available....


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Posted 07 May 2019 - 08:22 PM

it could also be in part that canada post frowns upon packaging that are not plain brown/white.. packaging with imagery on it and words and labels.. i remember years ago standing behind someone in line having their package denied because of what it was packaged in

 

I got a box from Amazon the other day with an ad for a pickup truck printed on it.


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#225 jonny

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Posted 08 May 2019 - 07:57 AM

 

Unfortunately, the uptake by companies has been too slow. Most do not seem willing to use these willingly, so we will likely have to force them through legislation. 



#226 Mike K.

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Posted 08 May 2019 - 10:18 AM

Most existing international standards require biodegradation of 60% within 180 days along with certain other criteria for the resin or product to be called compostable.


As per one of the links above, this is the reason why industry will likely never adopt this form of packaging. It self destructs, meaning the volume of repackaging or tampered goods concerns would be monumental when it can take 2-6 months just to receive a product from its point of shipment, let alone between the point of shipment and production.

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#227 Nparker

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Posted 25 July 2019 - 07:18 AM

I guess I can stop separating my recyclables and just throw everything in the big green dumpster in my building's parking garage. 

 

Changes to China’s importation rules mean there’s virtually no market for some of the material collected through commercial or multi-family residential recycling programs, and it’s increasingly ending up in the landfill...

https://www.timescol...-crd-1.23895522



#228 Mike K.

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Posted 25 July 2019 - 07:35 AM

It took about 25 years to come to the realization that shipping refuse away doesn't mean that refuse disappears. What else are we going to look back upon in 25 years and shake our heads at?


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#229 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 26 July 2019 - 04:07 AM

so the issue is high contamination in multi family collections. otherwise known as “renters don’t care” or “i don’t care where I put my garbage/recycling if I don’t get caught”. ie. once it’s in a communal bin nobody can be sure who put it in the wrong bin.

is there no way to force better sorting at the source (at the building or complex) or at a local transfer station or at the dump?

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#230 todd

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Posted 26 July 2019 - 12:42 PM

It took about 25 years to come to the realization that shipping refuse away doesn't mean that refuse disappears. What else are we going to look back upon in 25 years and shake our heads at?


We learned that in 1987: https://youtu.be/3c-dud2Nv08 The problem may be more who is taking out the trash?: https://youtu.be/hQm68Ayu36E

#231 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 30 July 2019 - 01:19 PM

Colin Savage, a Love Where You Live volunteer, said he stashed thousands of butts in the bushes in anticipation of the event, only to find them stolen.

 

 

https://vancouverisl...butts-1.4529982



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Posted 09 August 2019 - 11:05 AM

Why do we not have any express bottle depots in the capital?  :mad:

 

https://www.return-i...ations/express/



#233 Rob Randall

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Posted 09 August 2019 - 11:08 AM

Weird--if you click on the Vancouver Island  -.> CRD they come up. Map screw up.


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#234 todd

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Posted 09 August 2019 - 11:16 AM

Weird--if you click on the Vancouver Island  -.> CRD they come up. Map screw up.

You're saying we have express bottle depots in the capital?



#235 Rob Randall

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Posted 09 August 2019 - 12:15 PM

Oh, I didn't know about that express service. 

 

Unless I ran a restaurant or bar I would be embarrassed if people knew I drank enough to require a commercial account with invoicing for my empties.


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Posted 09 August 2019 - 12:22 PM

Alpine Group's disposal unit sold to Ontario-based waste management conglomerate


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#237 Rob Randall

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Posted 09 August 2019 - 12:35 PM

Mayor Cleans Up


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#238 todd

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Posted 09 August 2019 - 03:47 PM

Oh, I didn't know about that express service.

Unless I ran a restaurant or bar I would be embarrassed if people knew I drank enough to require a commercial account with invoicing for my empties.


You can get a case of 12 water bottles for under three dollars from Amazon. https://www.amazon.c...=gateway&sr=8-7

I’d be embarrassed if people didn’t know I got my eight glasses a day!


Edit: ^think that’s before the deposit

Edited by todd, 09 August 2019 - 03:56 PM.

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#239 UDeMan

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Posted 09 August 2019 - 04:16 PM

 

Alpine Group's disposal unit sold to Ontario-based waste management conglomerate

 

 

GFL is having an IPO on the TSX sometime in the fall.  That will be one stock to put on your watch list.


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Posted 09 August 2019 - 04:17 PM

Alpine Group's disposal unit sold to Ontario-based waste management conglomerate
https://victoria.cit...t-conglomerate/


Hope he didn’t sell it because of my post.

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