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#1381 Bingo

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Posted 16 February 2018 - 11:56 AM

Does he have a real name, lol?

 

It could have been that dude on here that had an opinion on everything.  :rtfm:


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#1382 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 16 February 2018 - 11:56 AM

Well, he's doing a poor job at sarcasm.   Just because a guy wants to stop rampant spending on bike lanes, does not mean he can't be an environmentalist. 

 

$14M spent on bike lanes could have bought the City a fleet of 466 electric cars at $30,000 each.


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#1383 aastra

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Posted 16 February 2018 - 11:58 AM

Well short of 500, in other words.



#1384 nagel

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Posted 16 February 2018 - 11:59 AM

It's certainly true that Facebook brings out the cray in all of us.



#1385 Nparker

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Posted 16 February 2018 - 12:14 PM

It could have been that dude on here that had an opinion on everything. 

I am still not entirely sure Changes the Clown and "He Who Shall Not Be Named" aren't the same person.


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#1386 Bingo

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Posted 16 February 2018 - 12:16 PM

Well short of 500, in other words.

 

I like round numbers too and the extra million would not be out of line.



#1387 Bingo

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Posted 16 February 2018 - 12:18 PM

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#1388 Rob Randall

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Posted 16 February 2018 - 12:23 PM

I don't know, environmentalism isn't really a big thing at the municipal level. It's already built into every decision council makes and everyone at City Hall is pretty much on board already so if you're branding yourself as "the environmental candidate"...well, you're not really bringing anything new to the table. 


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#1389 bluefox

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Posted 19 February 2018 - 11:01 AM

https://www.vicnews....-fall-election/

 

Rob Duncan.

 

Ed Pullman is already mad and exhibiting his usual histrionics, so he must be good.

 

Ed must be doing something right to have encouraged you to screenshot something from his page and post it. ;)


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#1390 Taco

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Posted 13 March 2018 - 08:12 AM

The only folks aware of the website or the Victoria Labour Council are NDP and Union activists and Chiefs. The fact is they are operating a municipal political party with interviewed and vetted candidates with 'free' mailings of these 'endorsements' to 20,000 current and retired public union households. The households receive additional endorsement mailings through their local newsletters. This is the largest direct mailing by any candidate in the election. The cost of this received service never appears in the candidates declared expenses at city hall. In  fact if you declare the two  lists between top sucesssful vote getting candidates and the endorsements in the mailing they completely overlap. Furthermore the appearance of three sleeper NDP candidates Thorton-Joe, Coleman and Helps you end up with a 8 out of 9 score. Helps was an candidate endorsee in the previous  election and how she came to electoral success.  Thorton-Joe and Coleman have a synchronous voting record with the block and are well known  to long time NDP voters locally. In summary the NDP runs a secret municipal party in Victoria and they cheat. If you are not on the VLC endorsement list mass mailing you will have a 9/10ths chance of coming in 11th or worse.

It's the most open secret there is in this community.  A very quick review of the candidates election disclosure forms shows how much influence has been brought to bear, in $$$ alone!



#1391 Taco

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Posted 23 March 2018 - 09:22 AM

Vancouver now publishes a dashboard that, at a glance, shows how councillors voted on each issue. (attached)  

Sad and embarrassing that it took so long when, at the same time, we bemoan poor voter turnout - this should be the minimum standard for transparency - good information creates engagement (as opposed to apathy) for goodness sake!

Why cant we have the same transparency in Victoria, Saanich, Esquimalt...? (my fingers are getting tired - you get the picture.)

 

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#1392 Bob Fugger

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 10:46 AM

Victoria Mayor Lisa Helps and her council are challenging residents to take part in a community-wide fast on May 25 to mark Ramadan, the holiest month in the Islamic calendar.

 

I'm sorry, but When TF did it become appropriate for City Council to recommend to residents to adopt religious practices?

 

“I think it’s really important for council to be able to be here standing alongside the Muslim community. We do this with the Jewish community at Hanukkah. We do it with the Christian Community at Christmas,” she said.

Yeah, but do they, though?  Do they "challenge" residents to accept Christ at Christmas?  I've never heard of Lisa asking us to give something up for Lent.  Or to keep Sabbath for a month (imagine all of the freed up parking!)?  I get that they want to make the Muslim community feel at home in Victoria.  But to challenge residents to starve themselves in a year in which even most Muslims find it difficult to fast (Ramadan is always toughest in spring/summer, with the increasing hours of daylight)?  This smacks of writing letters to Vladimir Putin, wagging its collective finger at their curbing of gay rights.  Church and state are separate here for a reason.  Seriously Lisa and Co., stay in your lane.  

 

http://www.timescolo...fast-1.23305250


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#1393 spanky123

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 11:46 AM

^ Helps has a pattern. When you hear her say that she is acting on someone else's suggestion then it is code for her followers.

 

This is about Helps uniting her supporters through division and hate. She wants to provoke a reaction like ours so that she can point to us as intolerant and ask her supporters for their help in her fight.

 

How about asking Muslim's to attend Easter mass next year or JW's to give their kids XMAS presents? All someone needs to do is suggest it to her.

 

Aside from the idea of infidels trying to co-opt an important Muslim period as their own, most Muslim's I know are not in a rush to draw attention to themselves. The Iman who let Helps play him is a fool unfortunately.


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#1394 rjag

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 12:10 PM

Just more virtue signaling. If they had left it with just recognizing Ramadan and a little bit of explanation of its significance then it would have looked appropriate. Challenging folks belittles and demeans the significance of the event
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#1395 RFS

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 12:38 PM

looks like Ramadan is really going to blow up this year!



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Posted 17 May 2018 - 12:53 PM

I'm sorry, but When TF did it become appropriate for City Council to recommend to residents to adopt religious practices?

 

Yeah, but do they, though?  Do they "challenge" residents to accept Christ at Christmas?  I've never heard of Lisa asking us to give something up for Lent.  Or to keep Sabbath for a month (imagine all of the freed up parking!)?  I get that they want to make the Muslim community feel at home in Victoria.  But to challenge residents to starve themselves in a year in which even most Muslims find it difficult to fast (Ramadan is always toughest in spring/summer, with the increasing hours of daylight)?  This smacks of writing letters to Vladimir Putin, wagging its collective finger at their curbing of gay rights.  Church and state are separate here for a reason.  Seriously Lisa and Co., stay in your lane.  

 

http://www.timescolo...fast-1.23305250

 

Well, it's official - LDH is Victoria's dhimmi of the year and decade.



#1397 John M.

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 02:44 PM

I'm sorry, but When TF did it become appropriate for City Council to recommend to residents to adopt religious practices?

 

Yeah, but do they, though?  Do they "challenge" residents to accept Christ at Christmas?  I've never heard of Lisa asking us to give something up for Lent.  Or to keep Sabbath for a month (imagine all of the freed up parking!)?  I get that they want to make the Muslim community feel at home in Victoria.  But to challenge residents to starve themselves in a year in which even most Muslims find it difficult to fast (Ramadan is always toughest in spring/summer, with the increasing hours of daylight)?  This smacks of writing letters to Vladimir Putin, wagging its collective finger at their curbing of gay rights.  Church and state are separate here for a reason.  Seriously Lisa and Co., stay in your lane.  

 

http://www.timescolo...fast-1.23305250

I've been the menorah lighting downtown on the first night of Hannukah several times and have never seen Lisa there. 


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#1398 mbjj

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 02:59 PM

I couldn't go without food all day, lol. My stomach would create a disturbance and I'd likely pass out. No thanks. Helps can stick it.


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#1399 Nparker

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 03:03 PM

I couldn't go without food all day, lol. My stomach would create a disturbance and I'd likely pass out. No thanks. Helps can stick it.

That's all you really needed to say.



#1400 LeoVictoria

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 03:30 PM

What’s missing from that article is a quote where she actually challenged the community to do the fast. Seems like council is doing it which I don’t see a problem with. Where did she say she wants the community to join in?

I assume it was said at one point or they wouldn’t have printed it but a quote would be nice to back up the headline.

Edited by LeoVictoria, 17 May 2018 - 03:32 PM.


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