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[Rob Randall]

It used to be Wanda Urbanowitz with Audrey Alsterberg.

[laconic]

Leopold's Tavern on Yates has drywall up, also some wallpaper. The windows are still largely covered but trades had the door open as a walked by yesterday.

[Nparker]

Leopold's Tavern on Yates has drywall up, also some wallpaper. The windows are still largely covered but trades had the door open as a walked by yesterday.

They're a bit past their announced opening

Leo’s Victoria will open in fall of 2019 and we’re super pumped to be heading west to this magical city...Posted by Leopold's Tavern on Monday, December 31, 2018

https://www.victoria...oria-this-fall/

[Matt R.]

Belleville Watering Hole to add EHT to bills.

https://globalnews.c...source=GlobalBC

Matt.

Edited by Matt R., 17 January 2020 - 04:27 PM.

[DustMagnet]

Belleville Watering Hole to add EHT to bills.

https://globalnews.c...source=GlobalBC

Matt.

 

 

“We basically have four options. One: lay off staff. Two: increasing pricing. Three: cut back portions. Four: go to this fee,” Chyzkowski said.

 

Two of these things are like one another.

 

Lord knows option #3 might lead to less dependence on the very thing this tax is funding...

 

Isn't this the same as London Drugs' shtick of charging the blank media levy separately?  Do they still do that?

[Victoria Watcher]

clever.  his payroll is up a point but he charges a point on the whole bill.

 

seriously though.  it seems a wacky way to do it.  just be better.  and then charge accordingly.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 17 January 2020 - 04:54 PM.

[Mike K.]

Explicitly adding this cost. Other businesses just work it into rising prices for their services or products.

The government doesn’t want this cost to be shown like that. They’d rather have the business quietly work it in, so I suspect Belleville’s crunched the numbers since the tax was introduced and worked it out as a 1% fee which they’ll now show on each bill.

[Victoria Watcher]

the first $500k of the payroll is totally exempt.

 

calculated as 2.925% x (B.C. payroll minus $500,000).

 

https://www.retailco...-now-in-effect/

 

so if this employer has a $600k payroll ($50k a month) his tax is only $2925 per year.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 17 January 2020 - 05:02 PM.

[Matt R.]

Yah he would need a payroll of about 2.5 mil to match up with what he says. Unclear if the operator of the restaurant is the same as the hotel.

Hard to believe the restaurant has such a high payroll but maybe.

Matt.

[shoeflack]

This is a pretty clear either A) cash grab by the owner or B) total misunderstanding of how this tax works. No way on earth is he paying $50,000 per year on this tax.

[Matt R.]

It’s entirely possible the hotel has a payroll that high. It’s also possible and entirely envious that the watering hole has the sales to support such a high payroll.

Back in the day, the place I worked in the harbour had some massive sales. 7.5 million? Hmm.

Matt.

[Mike K.]

Matt, what’s your take on the manpower to run this place? It’s quite a large establishment with the pub side and the diner side. I’ve never seen the kitchen but it must be quite large, no?

[shoeflack]

If he is attempting to collect $50,000 to repay this tax via a 1% fee, then we can assume this establishment does 5 million in sales annually or about $13,700 a night. So based on Matt’s comment above, that seems possible for the location. 200k per month on wages though...seems steep.

[Mike K.]

Oh yeah, $10k on a slow day sounds about right. $20k on a busy summer night, no question.

In beer sales alone they can easily clear several thousand dollars a day.

[Kapten Kapsell]

Also: some industries and employers used to pay the MSP premiums of their staff(back when premiums were charged); I wonder if this was common in the hospitality industry, especially at larger establishments connected to hotels?

[Kungsberg]

They're open 7:30 AM to midnight/1 AM, 7 days per week, running two 8-hr shifts.

 

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[Tom Braybrook]

i've never run restaurant (unless you count a few months at The Vegetable on Blanshard back in the '70s) , but...

 

if he is adding 1% to the gross of each bill to recoup a 1% tax on payroll - then unless his payroll = gross sales, this is a cash grab...

[Victoria Watcher]

i'm not sure it's a "cash grab".  people raise their menu prices 1% all the time.

 

but it's hard to believe he has a staff of 28.5 people on.  who knows though.  it's just a corny way to do it.  i thought petr (floyd's) was the partner here.

[Matt R.]

Matt, what’s your take on the manpower to run this place? It’s quite a large establishment with the pub side and the diner side. I’ve never seen the kitchen but it must be quite large, no?

Sure, I could see 90 staff. We run with between 30 and 40, and we are “small”.

They are open about 120 hours a week, that’s a LOT of shifts to fill every week. First shift probably 6:30 am unless they have a baker, last one out at 1-2 am. Gross.

Matt.

[Matt R.]

If he is attempting to collect $50,000 to repay this tax via a 1% fee, then we can assume this establishment does 5 million in sales annually or about $13,700 a night. So based on Matt’s comment above, that seems possible for the location. 200k per month on wages though...seems steep.

They’d need more like 7.5 million to demand a payroll of 2.5. Which I could see in a large popular restaurant like Cactus club, Milestones, Joe Fortes, etc.

I don’t think this place is that busy year round, but if that payroll is the entire hotel operation than for sure, easily.

The restaurant itself could easily do 4 million a year. It must be bonkers may-October.

Matt.