...Personally I lay blame for recent (5 years) issues on the Island Corridor Foundation which had $15 million secured and managed to lose it all because of inaction...
This.
Posted 14 April 2018 - 07:04 PM
...Personally I lay blame for recent (5 years) issues on the Island Corridor Foundation which had $15 million secured and managed to lose it all because of inaction...
This.
Posted 14 April 2018 - 07:24 PM
Yes, we are special. We build special bridges. We build special bike lanes.
Posted 15 April 2018 - 09:28 AM
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Posted 15 April 2018 - 05:38 PM
Posted 15 April 2018 - 06:48 PM
The E&N doesn't go where people need to go. Yes it starts in Westhills which is good but it does not go close enough to the main dockyard entrance - it doesn't go to the other major employment centres like VGH or UVic and it doesn't even go downtown. The decision to not replace rail bridge portion of the JSB was the death knell of the E&N in Greater Victoria.
A rapid transit route should start downtown - go up Douglas to MayFair then Uptown, on to Tillicum and then VGH then the West Shore. I think bus lanes are the way to go for now - they might not be sexy like a train - but they will go where people want to go.
However, I still think we should preserve the rail line for the future as our population will grow.
Perhaps we can look at using the E&N from Duncan to Westhills and then rapid bus the rest of the way?
Posted 15 April 2018 - 07:10 PM
Perhaps we can look at using the E&N from Duncan to Westhills and then rapid bus the rest of the way?
I don't think that works. That train will never do anywhere near the speed the highway cars are going, and then you have to transfer.
Posted 15 April 2018 - 07:13 PM
However, I still think we should preserve the rail line for the future as our population will grow.
Unless we massively grow the population density along the line, it'll never be needed. Downtown is not going to have 5,000 more workers any time soon. But I've already stated, Victoria, Esquimalt, View Royal and Langford have no intention of increasing density along the line. They never have suggested they are open to it.
Edited by VicHockeyFan, 15 April 2018 - 07:13 PM.
Posted 16 April 2018 - 05:51 AM
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Posted 16 April 2018 - 06:36 AM
Already the bus from Duncan costs what, $16 return?
$16 per trip or $192 for a monthly pass that only works on Cowichan routes (including the 44, 66 and 99) or $232 for one that works on Cowichan and Victoria routes https://bctransit.co...an-valley/fares
Posted 16 April 2018 - 06:59 AM
Right, there we go. $16 round-trip for a 60km, 1HR+ journey is far more palatable than $30 round trip for a 15km journey.
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Posted 16 April 2018 - 09:38 AM
You saying James Bay is dense enough to get 3 routes running all day (I think the 2 is every 10 mins) but the current fastest growing municipalities aren't?
Having lived in James Bay for the last 15+ years and commuting to work daily on the bus I would just like to point out that IMO James Bay is POORLY served by BC Transit. It is so poorly served that I embark and debark downtown on Fort and Yates Streets respectively. It is faster just to walk than wait for a transfer and the new routing would make it even worse as the #2 now meanders around James Bay like a drunk tourist in a rental car.
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Posted 16 April 2018 - 09:44 AM
Chicken and the egg. Hard to sell high density on the wrong side of the crawl. This is why a government serious about helping affordability would fast track this new corridor and facilitate high density development along it. The E&N runs right into the WestHills. There could be high rises, low rises and row houses there and along the route if the infrastructure was there first. Or at least in development. And again, it’s the track that allows the vehicle to run close to the other modes....The issue with the West Shore is lack of density - people & jobs - combined with long commute distances. The end result is low transit mode share (or walk/bike mode share).
Posted 16 April 2018 - 09:53 AM
The provincial government has no jurisdiction over development. That's up to the municipalities. The E&N corridor runs along low-density communities until it enters downtown Langford. The appetite for change along that entire route, outside of Langford, is very, very low if completely non-existent.
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Posted 16 April 2018 - 11:49 AM
They seem to be doing a good job meddling with our sewage system. That is my point. There is a huge potential for high density along the E&N and the appetite would develop if it was a tram route. Look at how much vacant land is in West Hills alone and the E&N runs right into it.The provincial government has no jurisdiction over development. That's up to the municipalities. The E&N corridor runs along low-density communities until it enters downtown Langford. The appetite for change along that entire route, outside of Langford, is very, very low if completely non-existent.
Posted 16 April 2018 - 11:53 AM
Posted 16 April 2018 - 12:00 PM
Having lived in James Bay for the last 15+ years and commuting to work daily on the bus I would just like to point out that IMO James Bay is POORLY served by BC Transit. It is so poorly served that I embark and debark downtown on Fort and Yates Streets respectively. It is faster just to walk than wait for a transfer and the new routing would make it even worse as the #2 now meanders around James Bay like a drunk tourist in a rental car.
BCT did extensive open houses, public surveys, etc when coming up with the new routing.
The online surveys presented several options, including the one that was decided on.
Seems to be that it was favored by most. Did you participate?
Public transit is never going to be as efficient as taking a car, cab, etc. It's going to work well for some, and not as well for others.
Posted 16 April 2018 - 12:05 PM
We don’t. We assume we have a housing crisis. We assume the economic centre is in Victoria and area, We see the crawl, we see an untapped transportation artery, we see a huge amount of undeveloped land in an area with the least red tape, and we add it all up.Why do we assume everyone in Westhills wants to go downtown? They all have driveways, garages and lots of cars.
Posted 16 April 2018 - 12:14 PM
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Posted 16 April 2018 - 12:30 PM
We need additional bus lanes. Uptown to Colwood exit.
Posted 16 April 2018 - 12:32 PM
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