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[Mike K.]

There we have it. Vancouver Island has been a draw among the other 5 million people in this province. But for whatever reason, Victoria is having a tough year, even though Harvard says the Island has benefited from staycations.

[spanky123]

^ Having our 'leaders' continuously denying there is a problem doesn't help. 

[Nparker]

Having our 'leaders' continuously denying exacerbating there is a the problem doesn't help. 

I think this is what you meant to say.

[TFord]

My guess is that we may lose up to half the restaurants in town by Christmas. I think it is next to impossible to predict the situation a year from now. While one hopes for a real recouvery there is also a real possible of a very long downturn.

 

Several of my friends run restaurants in town, I often hold back from posting the sentiments I hear from them.

 

Anyway I try to be optimistic, I think we all do. However, when I look at the news from the UK I feel it's only a matter of time (days) before we are forced into another shut down for bars and restaurants. That will be the death knell for many of them. 

 

 

TFord

[spanky123]

Several of my friends run restaurants in town, I often hold back from posting the sentiments I hear from them.

 

Anyway I try to be optimistic, I think we all do. However, when I look at the news from the UK I feel it's only a matter of time (days) before we are forced into another shut down for bars and restaurants. That will be the death knell for many of them. 

 

 

TFord

 

Lets face it, if 120 infections a day were enough to shut us down 6 months ago then we are way past that. The benefit your friends have this time is that Horgan's popularity is dropping (along with most Premiers) and he desperately wants to run an election and secure another 4 years ASAP.  On that basis he is going to keep schools, restaurants, bars and everything else highly visible open. 

[Barrrister]

Short of the hospitals becoming totally swamped it is unlikely that we would see any types of closings. if anything I suspect bars and restaurants will be allowed to open up over the next few months.

 

The hospital rates may well stay low simply because a lot of older people will self protect. We will be losing enough businesses after all.

[spanky123]

Lets face it, if 120 infections a day were enough to shut us down 6 months ago then we are way past that. The benefit your friends have this time is that Horgan's popularity is dropping (along with most Premiers) and he desperately wants to run an election and secure another 4 years ASAP.  On that basis he is going to keep schools, restaurants, bars and everything else highly visible open. 

 

Horgan must have been reading my posts :-) Election called.

[TwilightZoneVictoria]

Several of my friends run restaurants in town, I often hold back from posting the sentiments I hear from them.

 

Anyway I try to be optimistic, I think we all do. However, when I look at the news from the UK I feel it's only a matter of time (days) before we are forced into another shut down for bars and restaurants. That will be the death knell for many of them. 

 

 

TFord

Doubt we'll need a shut down. All we need is for the weather to turn and make the outdoor patios less desirable. 

[spanky123]

As the CEWS transitions I am already noticing restaurants reducing hours. Although I am sure that many are outright defrauding the system, others are going to be doing the math to find out what their optimum benefit is and then making sure that their revenue drop matches it.

[Midnightly]

i don't see another big shut down happening.. just from a cost perspective, i don't think the province and the federal government can afford to have another 2-4 month shut down/cerb payments.. i can see cut backs.. stores going back to limiting the amount in at any time, (but this can get tricky in the winter months especially in the colder areas of the province) masks are slowly becoming mandatory at most stores

 

i know schools are a bit tricky with the amount of kids in a classroom/kids in the school at any given time.. i do think the school districts are trying to do the best they can with the situation they have...people don't want schools to be shut down it was pretty clear when sd61 did the survey and most wanted full time school

[Jackerbie]

As the CEWS transitions I am already noticing restaurants reducing hours. Although I am sure that many are outright defrauding the system, others are going to be doing the math to find out what their optimum benefit is and then making sure that their revenue drop matches it.

 

Also take into account the new restriction on liquor sales after 10 PM. That is sure to impact those businesses that previously relied on evening traffic to justify not being open earlier in the day.

[Matt R.]

... and no liquor before 11am, so the breakfast places get in on the action too. 

The written PHO just came out yesterday, and I think the opening restriction will be clarified a little, as the written word doesn’t quite match what was spoken last week. 
 

Matt.

[Matt R.]

As the CEWS transitions I am already noticing restaurants reducing hours. Although I am sure that many are outright defrauding the system, others are going to be doing the math to find out what their optimum benefit is and then making sure that their revenue drop matches it.

The CEWS transition is also at the same time as a normal slow down would be.  I like the new formula. Not as good as 75% off, but still something!

 

Matt. 

[Jackerbie]

... and no liquor before 11am, so the breakfast places get in on the action too. 

The written PHO just came out yesterday, and I think the opening restriction will be clarified a little, as the written word doesn’t quite match what was spoken last week. 
 

Matt.

 

Really! I definitely had a mimosa at 10 AM on Sunday.... I guess that's the necessary clarification you speak of.

[Matt R.]

Yah it was worded that if you stayed open past 11 you can’t serve booze again until 11, but the written order makes it sound like you can’t serve before 11 no matter what. We’ve seen this before with the PHO (actually text not quite what the press conference says) but this one took a week to get out.

Matt.

[Rob Randall]

Sounds like they have to revert to the old Victoria technique of discretely dropping off a teapot at your table. So you can add a splash of "tea" to your orange juice or Coke.

[Sparky]

^ ah the tea pot story reminds me of the days of the “Rubber Sandwich”

There was a time when the only way an establishment could sell liquor other than a pub or a bar connected to a hotel was if the patron was served with food.

Enter the rubber sandwich which was a rather day old (or more) facsimile of an edible sandwich which was placed on your table in order to facilitate the deliverance of a liquor based accompaniment.

The establishment frowned on the practice of actually taking a bite out of that bad boy.

[spanky123]

The CEWS transition is also at the same time as a normal slow down would be.  I like the new formula. Not as good as 75% off, but still something!

 

Matt. 

 

Well if you work the numbers the right way you can now get 85% off.

[LJ]

I want a rubber band sandwich and make it snappy.

[Matt R.]

There was a time when the only way an establishment could sell liquor other than a pub or a bar connected to a hotel was if the patron was served with food.

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it’s still that way!

 

Matt.