BUILT Hudson Place One Uses: condo, commercial Address: 777 Herald Street Municipality: Victoria Region: Downtown Victoria Storeys: 25 Condo units: (studio/bachelor, 1BR, 2BR, sub-penthouse, penthouse) Sales status: sold out / resales only |
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[Downtown Victoria] Hudson Place One | Condos; commercial | 25-storeys | Built - Completed in 2020
#21
Posted 23 July 2012 - 07:40 PM
I have no problem with a developer reviving a decent design that was never built, believe me. But I think I'm a bit surprised that a design would be repurposed for a completely different site in this manner.
So if they can do that, how about building Radius on the block between Cormorant and Pandora?
#22
Posted 23 July 2012 - 07:47 PM
The Hudson towers were supposed to be triangular--the three towers would interact nicely that way. Centro was two offset towers--rectangular--playing off each other. They're not interchangeable. Hudson's triangle towers were what made the extra height palatable to the skeptics.
If the Hudson turns out to be another standard rectangle I will be very disapointed.
-City of Victoria website, 2009
#23
Posted 23 July 2012 - 07:54 PM
-City of Victoria website, 2009
#24
Posted 23 July 2012 - 08:40 PM
#25
Posted 23 July 2012 - 09:00 PM
#26
Posted 23 July 2012 - 09:35 PM
It does raise some questions, doesn't it? Mike K. already made the observation about the floor count, but there's also the downhill slope shown in the image, which suggests the north side of the block, yes? So the shorter condo tower would now be on the Herald St. side and the taller condo tower would be on the Blanshard St. side? The old plan had the taller condo tower on the Herald St. side, and the base of the tower was right on the carriageway.
I was assuming that they were using that picture as a representation of the general plan for the next tower. But then I thought, wasn't Hudson Place supposed to be two towers? If so, why does this picture on the website only show one?
I believe aastra has a good point that, if taken literally,this picture suggests that this tower would be on the corner of Blanshard and Herald, where there was not a tower planned in the original plan. The original plan had three towers, one on each of Fisgard, Blanshard and Herald, along with of course the HBC building itself.
Then again, if you look at the Hudson Mews building that is being constructed, it looks a lot different than the old massings in this thread. I don't think Townline has ever released final designs for these buildings, have they? I'm sure the design will continue to evolve as this project plods along.
#27
Posted 23 July 2012 - 10:07 PM
#28
Posted 23 July 2012 - 10:17 PM
#29
Posted 23 July 2012 - 10:30 PM
Plods along? Concrete is flowing, the Mews can go on the Active list.
Well, there was little to no activity for over two years. I thought "plods along" was actually being quite generous. This development has basically been on hold since the Hudson was finished.
Baro, with the exception of the Mews, the renderings Townline has released look very preliminary to me which leads me to believe they don't have final detailed designs.
I would guess that it's a combination of not having a finished master plan, continually re-evaluating the market and not putting money into designing the finished product without having a final vision. Or maybe they do have detailed designs, but don't want to release them until they are sure for fear of upsetting the market by promising one thing and delivering another?
#30
Posted 23 July 2012 - 11:14 PM
Or maybe they do have detailed designs, but don't want to release them until they are sure for fear of upsetting the market by promising one thing and delivering another?
Perhaps the above reason, sneaking it in? How could you pour concrete without having a detailed plan?
#31
Posted 23 July 2012 - 11:53 PM
#32
Posted 24 July 2012 - 07:11 AM
I recall seeing quite detailed renderings of Hudson's two tallest towers. They were conceived by Merrick way back during the rezoning phase.
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#33
Posted 24 July 2012 - 05:25 PM
The updated Hudson Place website states two towers are to be built (in addition to The Mews rental tower that has commenced construction).
#34
Posted 24 July 2012 - 06:12 PM
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#35
Posted 24 July 2012 - 06:50 PM
I'd also bet a donut that it's not supposed to be a particularly accurate image at this point. I'd guess that they were trying to suggest Herald St. with the slope? There's no such slope along either Cormorant or Pandora on either side of the Centro site, is there?
picture from http://www.hudsonplace.ca/what/
#36
Posted 24 July 2012 - 07:07 PM
#37
Posted 24 July 2012 - 07:30 PM
-City of Victoria website, 2009
#38
Posted 24 July 2012 - 07:54 PM
It had better be commercial along Blanshard or all hope is lost.
OK, I'll bite - why do you think Blanshard needs commercial? Its not very commercial north or south of the Hudson, and Douglas has a pretty decent commercial strip a block away. I think streetscape commercial would stick out here and be a long time in finding neighbors.
#39
Posted 24 July 2012 - 08:42 PM
#40
Posted 24 July 2012 - 09:05 PM
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