Esquimalt policing
#41
Posted 27 June 2012 - 04:41 PM
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#42
Posted 28 June 2012 - 03:33 PM
So what does that mean exactly? How is Esquimalt distinct? What's the nature of its distinctiveness? Is there no specific desire for community policing in Victoria? Is Victoria not a community, or not made up of communities?The Victoria Police Department should change its name to reflect Esquimalt's presence, and the department needs to recognize that Esquimalt is a distinct community, with a specific desire for community policing, wrote Greatbatch.
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During the bridge replacement saga, Victoria city hall stressed the point that Esquimalt & View Royal were critically relevant to downtown Victoria's transportation, employment, and economic issues. During the Esquimalt policing saga, Esquimalt municipal hall stressed the point that Victoria was not relevant to Esquimalt's policing issues.
#43
Posted 28 June 2012 - 05:14 PM
So what does that mean exactly? How is Esquimalt distinct? What's the nature of its distinctiveness?...
I am going to have to assume Esquimalt has such distinct crime that no other policing force in the country could possibly understand its needs.
Honestly, the "distinctiveness" of our geographically and populated small region is becoming a bit too much to bear. We're not even 400,000 people folks, and we're a fraction of the size of other areas with not only amalgamated policing but all sort of other amalgamated services. What makes people of this smallish tip of Vancouver Island think they are so special is beyond me. How do other cities manage their larger geographies and populations when we can't get a grip on our comparative hamlet?
#44
Posted 28 June 2012 - 05:27 PM
#45
Posted 28 June 2012 - 05:31 PM
It's really absurd, this notion that one side of a neighbourhood could be (or must be) vastly different from the other side of the very same neighbourhood... simply because the neighbourhood happens to straddle an arbitrary municipal line. Most of Victoria's supposed distinctions are merely political contrivances.
Aren't you overlooking the "Victoria Attitude"?
#46
Posted 28 June 2012 - 05:35 PM
#47
Posted 28 June 2012 - 06:45 PM
#48
Posted 28 June 2012 - 10:56 PM
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#49
Posted 29 June 2012 - 12:11 AM
Esquimalt use to have one of the most unique police forces in all of Greater Victoria. With the exception of the management structure, the police officers and the fire fighters used to exchange duties.
This was ideal in the fact that the members of these forces used to rotate from policing to firefighting. Stress from policing was tempered with a more subtle duty whereby the job was not as onerous as it was in other municipalities.
The council of the day started to have issues with the policing policies and a fight ensued.
It was the police department that applied to the provincial attorney general to amalgamate with Victoria and they won their case.
The politicians were to blame for loosing their police force. The politicians of the day are no longer there.
Note to self....be careful who you vote for.
#50
Posted 29 June 2012 - 12:15 AM
I don't suppose it's common to see police and firefighters rotating between jobs.
Where did the Esquimalt police officers go? Did they all end up joining VicPD?
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#51
Posted 29 June 2012 - 05:40 AM
#52
Posted 29 June 2012 - 10:32 AM
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#53
Posted 29 June 2012 - 03:35 PM
But seriously, Shirley Bond would make a supporter out of me if she somehow managed to kick off the long overdue South Island police and fire department amalgamation with these two. She could throw in Oak Bay as a bonus at the same time.
#54
Posted 29 June 2012 - 06:58 PM
Why not rename themselves the "Greater Victoria Police Department" in anticipation of the wider amalgamation that will soon be happening
But seriously, Shirley Bond would make a supporter out of me if she somehow managed to kick off the long overdue South Island police and fire department amalgamation with these two. She could throw in Oak Bay as a bonus at the same time.
Oak Bay - Gordon Head is going to be a tough fight for the Liberals to keep. Why would they piss off people like this?
Regardless, the way Oak Bay does policing is actually the cheapest way to do it.
#55
Posted 29 June 2012 - 07:06 PM
Oak Bay - Gordon Head is going to be a tough fight for the Liberals to keep. Why would they piss off people like this?
Regardless, the way Oak Bay does policing is actually the cheapest way to do it.
"No call too small" and farming out all of the hard stuff is hardly policing. It would be even cheaper if they replaced OBPD with private security guards (like a gated community) - it's still not policing.
#56
Posted 29 June 2012 - 07:22 PM
#57
Posted 29 June 2012 - 07:44 PM
#58
Posted 29 June 2012 - 07:47 PM
"No call too small" and farming out all of the hard stuff is hardly policing. It would be even cheaper if they replaced OBPD with private security guards (like a gated community) - it's still not policing.
Why do you care? It's not like you are paying for it, or even living there.
#59
Posted 29 June 2012 - 11:17 PM
For those of you that are unaware of the story...allow me to enlighten you.
Esquimalt use to have one of the most unique police forces in all of Greater Victoria. With the exception of the management structure, the police officers and the fire fighters used to exchange duties.
This was ideal in the fact that the members of these forces used to rotate from policing to firefighting. Stress from policing was tempered with a more subtle duty whereby the job was not as onerous as it was in other municipalities.
The council of the day started to have issues with the policing policies and a fight ensued.
It was the police department that applied to the provincial attorney general to amalgamate with Victoria and they won their case.
The politicians were to blame for loosing their police force. The politicians of the day are no longer there.
Note to self....be careful who you vote for.
This is an interesting perspective, Sparky. I've never heard the years leading up to the merger described that way before. I'll see if I can post excerpts from the BC Police Commission audits as they paint a different picture.
#60
Posted 29 June 2012 - 11:32 PM
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