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#601 mbjj

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Posted 25 June 2021 - 08:06 AM

simple book drop/pick-up counters could also be placed in lots of other places.  with cooperating business and community associations that have staff for such a counter.

 

simple book drop/pick-up counters could also be placed in lots of other places.  with cooperating business and community associations that have staff for such a counter.

Trouble with this is staff have to know the actual date something was returned, in case it has incurred overdue fines. The business which received the book or whatever would have to be keeping a very accurate record. 



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Posted 25 June 2021 - 08:09 AM

Trouble with this is staff have to know the actual date something was returned, in case it has incurred overdue fines. The business which received the book or whatever would have to be keeping a very accurate record. 

 

ya we have computers for that.  we scan it.  the system records it.



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Posted 25 June 2021 - 09:04 AM

ya we have computers for that.  we scan it.  the system records it.

 

Yeah, but now we've gone tossing your books in a basket to a trained employee at a private business doing the work of a CUPE Local 410 employee. Now things get complicated.



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Posted 25 June 2021 - 09:07 AM

Yeah, but now we've gone tossing your books in a basket to a trained employee at a private business doing the work of a CUPE Local 410 employee. Now things get complicated.

 

that's why we offer a one-time 5% pay bump to all current 410 employees and a life-time job guarantee (no lay-offs) for all current employees.  and a promise of no reduction of regular branch staff total numbers. 

 

that's how you do it.


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Posted 25 June 2021 - 09:34 AM

And in the meantime a true decentralized grassroots approach has already established hundreds of convenient locations in Victoria.

https://victoriaplac...free-libraries/

All at no tax payer cost. Not to say we don't need traditional libraries but this is a beautiful example of (fill in the blanks according to your perspective):
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#606 Midnightly

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Posted 26 June 2021 - 09:24 PM

this just feels like another report to pay someone they probably already know 200k.. that will end up going nowhere... they have been talking about relocating the downtown central library for 10+ years now and it seems it is just another endless cycle.. pay someone to do a report... do a bunch of studies.... heck maybe draw up plans... millions spent and nothing comes of it...


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Posted 26 June 2021 - 09:27 PM

Trouble with this is staff have to know the actual date something was returned, in case it has incurred overdue fines. The business which received the book or whatever would have to be keeping a very accurate record. 

 

could install self return scanners... they have had one for years at the Emily carr location at uptown mall... you scan the book a door opens the book gets scanned through the system as returned then it gets dropped into a bin

 

also add that since the esquimalt location has been under construction (in their former parking lot for years now) they have had a drop off bin set up at Archie browning rec center outside and for the most part i haven't heard of any issues with it.. sometimes they don't empty it right away and they will just adjust the date/take off late fees when they scan the book into the system...


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#608 Mike K.

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Posted 27 June 2021 - 06:51 AM

Oh it’s been longer. I’d say the discussions started in the late 90s, as the current branch sort of ended up there because the space was available but it was never intended to be a main library branch the likes of the Carnegie Building.
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#609 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 27 June 2021 - 06:57 AM

sure it was never intended to be a library but it seems to work as one now, what's the problem?  900 is in a different wing than 700 who cares?



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Posted 27 June 2021 - 07:02 AM

It sure seems to be doing fine.

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Posted 27 June 2021 - 07:54 AM

I think it's about as good a place as it could be downtown. It's not that far a walk from Douglas/Fort which is a fairly busy area. Has alright parking but I don't know where you can get better, basically right on the busiest bus corridor too with I think every route that goes through downtown stopping nearby. It's pretty spacious and doesn't feel like they're struggling to put new materials in or anything. Moving it just seems like it would only lead to downgrades in pretty much every aspect. 



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Posted 27 June 2021 - 08:00 AM

You’re probably right. The big point of contention is the space wasn’t built for a library, but the public doesn’t mind at all.

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Posted 27 June 2021 - 08:11 AM

it benefits from additional security next door provided by the province. for the office by really for the courtyard. so an extra 2-3 full time staffers for “free”.

Parking below. on transit routes. a myriad of offices and meeting rooms for their own staff.

the only part that ever looks crowded is the computer area. I already suggested ways to help this. this is also a very different socio economic group than those using other library services. we can look at a way of distributing this simple service wider.

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Posted 03 July 2021 - 10:43 AM

No one seems to have posted and I don't see anything on the website (or have any idea how old this is) but the libraries seem to be opening more expansive allowing you to walk around most of the building. I don't think any tables/chairs are set-up but I didn't have time to look around. 

Might have been from the same time as this and I didn't notice but their hours are back to normal now (10-6 most days with them each having a day or two they're open until 7)


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#615 Mike K.

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Posted 28 September 2021 - 04:36 PM

Campbell River's new library project has ground to a halt when new construction budgeting landed 80% above what had been initially budget, totalling over $16 million just to construct the structure, let alone furnish it, pay consultants, etc.

 

This is sounding similar to the issues the Art Gallery of Greater Victoria faced.

 

Skyrocketing pandemic construction costs put new Campbell River Library on pause

 

The Vancouver Island Regional Library (VIRL) Board of Trustees have hit pause on a new library in downtown Campbell River.

 

At the September 25 Board meeting, Trustees voted in support of continuing to operate out of the current library location for the next 12 months. Skyrocketing construction and labour costs resulting from the pandemic were the major influencers behind this difficult decision. Over the next 12 months, VIRL staff will explore all available options to revive the new library project in the future.

 

“This was certainly a difficult decision,” says Chair of the VIRL Board of Trustees, Gaby Wickstrom. “But we could not, being fiscally responsible, move forward with this project under the current construction and labour markets. While the Board is disappointed, we remain committed to and confident in finding a viable solution to build a flagship branch for Campbell River and the North Island.”

 

The library will remain in its current location for the next year on a month-to-month lease. During this time, VIRL staff will continue to consult with community representatives, assess future options, and make informed recommendations to the Board on a path forward.

 

“A new library as a cornerstone of Campbell River’s downtown core and cultural district remains a priority for us,” says Colleen Evans, VIRL Trustee on the Executive Committee and Councillor with the City of Campbell River. “The difficult reality is it simply is not the right time to move forward with a project of this size and scope. I will continue to advocate for a new library in Campbell River and trust that the VIRL Board of Trustees will not lose sight of the important role a new library will play in our economic development goals and ongoing community growth.”

 

Planning for the new library began in 2019. With support from Campbell River Council, the plan was to demolish the existing building and construct a 20,000 sq. ft. facility on the same site. The total budget, secured through a Municipal Finance Authority (MFA) loan, was $14 million, with $9 million allocated for construction and the remainder for furnishings, IT infrastructure, consulting, shelving, and more. The City of Campbell River had committed to providing a no-cost lease to VIRL, demolishing the existing facility, and to servicing the site with sewage, water, drainage, and CR Municipal Broadband service.

 

“As most people know, I have been an enthusiastic supporter of libraries and of having a new branch built in Campbell River,” says Brenda Leigh, SRD Director, VIRL Board Past Chair and current Trustee on the Executive Committee. “Our Strathcona Region supported the proposed new branch by offering a $14 million Loan Authorization after receiving public approval a year ago. I am confident that VIRL will continue to work hard over the year to examine our options so that we can deliver a much-needed new and improved Library in Campbell River.”

 

In April 2021, the results of a Class D costing indicated that construction costs alone would surpass $16 million. A second costing was commissioned in May, based on a revised design with scaled back features. This assessment also came back with projected construction costs up to five million dollars over the budgeted amount of $9 million.

Also at the September 25 Board meeting, VIRL Trustees agreed to a one-year hiatus on all new Capital Projects in 2022. This will provide VIRL with an opportunity to reevaluate Capital priorities as costs begin to rebound after historic pandemic highs. Some projects will continue in 2022 because the projects were well underway at the time the hiatus was enacted.


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#616 Mike K.

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Posted 20 October 2021 - 06:45 AM

The City of Victoria says it is taking steps to assess what to do about the central library as part of its 2022 strategic plan.

 

Mayor Helps did say a couple of years ago that a new library would be one of her final pursuits as mayor. The library has bumped re-starting the Crystal Pool debate to 2023, which will fall under the auspices of a new council.


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#617 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 20 October 2021 - 06:47 AM

And they are spending $200,000 to figure out if the library needs a new home, or if it should just stay in the temporary home it moved into - in 1990.


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#618 Nparker

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Posted 20 October 2021 - 06:52 AM

The CoV central library located to its current "temporary" location in 1978.



#619 Mike K.

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Posted 20 October 2021 - 06:57 AM

1990, according to the TC.


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Posted 20 October 2021 - 07:03 AM

Surprise-surprise the TC is wrong. I KNOW I went into the current location in the mid-80s.



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