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[sebberry]

You mean the way thousands of commuters get to work from the westshore and Saanich Peninsula everyday?

 

It's hard enough parking a car in town, try a camper!

[sebberry]

surprise surprise. sunshine has no job.


He said he is an eight-year army veteran dealing with post-traumatic stress disorder and living on a government pension. But he knows many who have jobs.

He said the van life is driven by the lack of affordable housing in Victoria. Forcing van dwellers into campsites outside the city would demand a daily drive back and forth for those who work. And campsites charge fees.


https://www.timescol...pers-1.24066698

 

We keep talking about how much we need more prevention.  Stop the youth from ending up in homeless shelters. Stop the youth from ending up on the streets with a needle in their arm.  

 

I knew something was up when I saw the Veteran plates on his van.  This is a perfect example of where prevention needs to be exercised.  He's served his country, got the mental scars to prove it, let's get him into some properly supportive housing, therapy, re-training and let him learn how to be a functioning member of society again.  It'll do him some good and society some good.  

 

Or we can wait until he totally falls apart and becomes another junkie dancing in an intersection.  

[todd]

full marks to the converted/stealth cube van guy.  that's a cool ride.  

 

also.  get a job.  you freeloader.

 

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Helped pimp out a crappy cube van with a full sound system high-end equipment with probably more power then the SOF centre you could hear it across at least all of downtown. I thought it was a bad idea.

[sebberry]

full marks to the converted/stealth cube van guy.  that's a cool ride.  

 

also.  get a job.  you freeloader.

 

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I agree with you on many things.  Crapping on our veterans isn't one of them. 

[todd]

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[Victoria Watcher]

I agree with you on many things.  Crapping on our veterans isn't one of them. 

 

i don't think disabilities should keep anyone back.  he's got ptsd?  so what.  he has a van and a drivers license.  hard to believe he can't find some type of work.  that ptsd and veteran status does not give you a right to free camping on our streets.  live like the rest of us.  ask for help if you want.  don't just tread on us.  

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 02 February 2020 - 12:37 PM.

[todd]

i don't think disabilities should keep anyone back.  he's got ptsd?  so what.  he has a van and a drivers license.  hard to believe he can't find some type of work.  that ptsd and veteran status does not give you a right to free camping on our streets.  live like the rest of us.  ask for help if you want.  don't just tread on us.

Why can’t you just not like to work and live in a van? Because the queen doesn’t want that? Society is just make-believe?

[Victoria Watcher]

you can live in a van if you like.  but find some private property to park it on.  

[todd]

you can live in a van if you like.  but find some private property to park it on.

But land property is an artificial concept?

[sebberry]

i don't think disabilities should keep anyone back.  he's got ptsd?  so what.  he has a van and a drivers license.  hard to believe he can't find some type of work.  that ptsd and veteran status does not give you a right to free camping on our streets.  live like the rest of us.  ask for help if you want.  don't just tread on us.  

 

Spoken like someone without a disability!  

[rmpeers]

But land property is an artificial concept?

Sounds like someone's eying up that vacant council seat.

[Victoria Watcher]

Spoken like someone without a disability!  

 

spoken like someone that believes that everyone regardless of disability can contribute to good society.  i truly believe that everyone has something to offer.  

 

i simply know this very young man has skills and a way to contribute.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 02 February 2020 - 01:31 PM.

[sebberry]

spoken like someone that believes that everyone regardless of disability can contribute to good society.

 

i simply know this very young man has skills and a way to contribute.

 

I'm sure he does.  But what we don't know is how his PTSD impacts his ability to put those skills to use in a way in which he can enjoy stable employment.  

[Victoria Watcher]

I'm sure he does.  But what we don't know is how his PTSD impacts his ability to put those skills to use in a way in which he can enjoy stable employment.  

 

stable employment can take many different forms.  like i say i know this guy can have it.

[todd]

Sounds like someone's eying up that vacant council seat.

Too slimy for an octopus

[Victoria Watcher]

Dallas Road parking rules are nothing new

 

https://www.timescol...nger-1.24067858

 

I had implemented signage along Dallas Road in 2009, when I was a parks employee, saying, “Three and a half hour parking only,” as the parks bylaw states.

 

It was enforced with the parks officials, bylaw enforcement officers or police on a daily basis. The signs were removed for the construction of the new sewage pipe.

 

For the city to say this is a new approach is false.

 

Raj Sundher
Victoria

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 04 February 2020 - 09:14 AM.

[Jackerbie]

Dallas Road parking rules are nothing new

 

https://www.timescol...nger-1.24067858

 

I had implemented signage along Dallas Road in 2009, when I was a parks employee, saying, “Three and a half hour parking only,” as the parks bylaw states.

 

It was enforced with the parks officials, bylaw enforcement officers or police on a daily basis. The signs were removed for the construction of the new sewage pipe.

 

For the city to say this is a new approach is false.

 

Raj Sundher
Victoria

 

Not all of the parking areas had those signs, based on Google Street View. The lot at Finlayson Point had signage indicating the maximum time, but the other angled parking lots along Dallas Road simply noted that overnight parking was not permitted. So, everyone can be a little correct this time!

[mbjj]

I saw a photo of Clover Point with quite a few vans parked there in daylight. If I want to drive down there to look at the view, is there room for me? I'm listening to this van guy on the radio. He said many "want a better climate and a better view". Gosh, I'd like a seaview too. I see a dumpster when I look out my window.

[Victoria Watcher]

(helps) said afterward that she believes the discussion was helpful, even if produced no permanent solution. That, she said, would require something be done about the lack of affordable housing across Canada.

 

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Van dwellers said their chosen way of living harms nobody, and many of them expressed insult when some speakers characterized them as poor or homeless.

“Living in a van doesn’t mean you are homeless,” said Amanda Mackenzie, 26. “It just means you want to live a minimal lifestyle.”

Mackenzie said she works 50 hours a week in a restaurant and is about to start classes at Camosun College. Living in a van is her choice at the moment.

“There just needs to be a bit more acceptance,” she said.

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Van dweller Tyler Kleppe, who has been on Vancouver Island since early September, said he can sympathize with homeowners.

But Kleppe takes exception to the notion people should be prohibited from sleeping in a vehicle parked on a street.

“I totally understand homeowners’ perspective that it shouldn’t be a permanent camping place,” he said. “But I don’t think it should be illegal to sleep in your vehicle, just maybe where.”

 

 

https://www.timescol...vans-1.24068895

 

 

amanda the solution to your current lifestyle choice issue is not more "acceptance" from us.  it's more "adherence" to the laws from you.  if the law does not suit you then fight the law through the usual means to have it changed or overturned.  for that you'll need a broad consensus on the changes - from others.  if you can't achieve that it's just not the will of the public.

 

i calculate your wage at $3116 per month even if you make minimum wage and receive no tips in your restaurant job.  get an apartment or park on private property or camp at goldstream for $13/night.

 

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Edited by Victoria Watcher, 05 February 2020 - 04:58 AM.

[spanky123]

On CFAX this morning the Mayor blamed City staff for allowing parking on Dallas Rd claiming that the parking bylaw was enforced at their discretion.