The Greater Victoria traffic incident/accident thread
#5541
Posted 27 December 2017 - 09:47 AM
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#5542
Posted 27 December 2017 - 10:03 AM
I don't know from which direction it was coming from or even what type of vehicle. Sorry, it's social media news. You get what you pay for.
#5543
Posted 27 December 2017 - 10:32 AM
Video: https://business.fac...55962357454362/
I chuckled to myself when I surmised that the issue was being handled by Victoria taxpayers because VicPD was on scene ...only to remember that they have jurisdiction over both Esquimalt and Victoria, lol.
The verdict is in, however. The truck is decidedly on the Esquimalt side. Figures...
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#5544
Posted 27 December 2017 - 10:42 AM
Oh, wow--that's a serious case of bad driving.
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Paging Dr. Freud...?
#5545
Posted 27 December 2017 - 03:37 PM
The truck is heading south, forgetting that the tire pressures had just been increased.
The driver may have thought that if the clearance at the railway bridge at 4 mile Hill was 4.6 m....therefore all clearances must be the same. eh!
All that was needed was the train to come by and fall off the bridge to complete the picture.
Here is the bridge looking south at more happier times.
#5546
Posted 27 December 2017 - 03:45 PM
Ya, that sucks, I'm sure the driver does not feel all to swell after that.
#5547
Posted 27 December 2017 - 04:22 PM
The driver may have thought that if the clearance at the railway bridge at 4 Mile Hill was 4.6 m....therefore all clearances must be the same. eh!
The rail bridge clearance at Esquimalt Road to the Delta Inn is 5.0m, and the rail bridge over Helmcken is 4.5m, so it stands to reason that they need to raise bridge at Hereward by another metre.
Failing that, excavate the road out of there, or close the road off under the bridge, or install a lifting bridge. Any of those options would be silly though, so we need the mayor, any mayor, to look into this right away.
#5550
Posted 28 December 2017 - 11:44 AM
Hereward is entirely on the City side of the boundary.
The border runs north-south along the middle of Dominion.
That air pressure issue sounds like the start of list of excuses...
I do wonder though if the bridge the truck hit is actually at 3.7m clearance.
The bridges look to be level at the undersides but the road is clearly going up hill as one moves south.
Well hold on now. On which side of the road is most of the vehicle on?
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#5551
Posted 28 December 2017 - 02:57 PM
No matter how you slice it, this is on the driver, IMO. S/He should know the dimensions of the truck - especially the height - and there's a big yellow sign on every bridge telling the clearance...
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#5552
Posted 28 December 2017 - 04:33 PM
That air pressure issue sounds like the start of list of excuses...
I do wonder though if the bridge the truck hit is actually at 3.7m clearance.
The bridges look to be level at the undersides but the road is clearly going up hill as one moves south.
I made the air pressure thing up, but if there was a few inches of snow the clearance might have been less.
You can take a look at the TWO bridges in Google street view. They both say the same clearance as being 3.7m.
The driver would have had to hit the concrete bridge supporting the E&N Trail first, and the old steel railway bridge second.
I think the concrete bridge has more clearance looking at street view. I agree that the road is going uphill heading south.
I wonder how many time they have paved the road since the signs were installed.
#5553
Posted 28 December 2017 - 05:34 PM
I do wonder though if the bridge the truck hit is actually at 3.7m clearance.
The bridges look to be level at the undersides but the road is clearly going up hill as one moves south.
It doesn't really matter if it's 3.7 metres or ... or 1.6 metres. That truck is not going to fit, either way. I wouldn't drive a 5-ton Budget truck under something that didn't have, at least, 4 metres clearance. There's no excuse. This clown shouldn't be on the road if he isn't aware that his trailer is probably at least 13 feet tall.
#5554
Posted 30 December 2017 - 01:49 PM
You can take a look at the TWO bridges in Google street view. They both say the same clearance as being 3.7m.
The driver would have had to hit the concrete bridge supporting the E&N Trail first, and the old steel railway bridge second.
I think the concrete bridge has more clearance looking at street view. I agree that the road is going uphill heading south.
The two bridges say the clearances are the same but in reality they are different. All of the signage says 3.7m. If you look at the bridge in photo at left, the driver of the truck would see both bridges while heading south.
If you look at the rail bridge at right when heading north you cannot see the second concrete bridge because it has more road clearance.
There is no damage to the concrete rail trail bridge so the truck cleared the first bridge while driving south, only to find the second bridge at a different height.
There is a deception happening here that would not be apparent when heading south and you would trust the signage on the first bridge which is CORRECT.
Scroll down for more;
This photo shows the actual differences in height when looking at the abutments.
Then there is some cross bracing under the rail bridge that may have been added after the clearance sign was installed. This would add a few more inches for a further reduction of the road clearance.
This piece steel has clearly been damaged. The direction south is at the bottom of the photo.
#5555
Posted 30 December 2017 - 02:00 PM
The signage required to be posted is the lowest point of any and all bridges in the set. So 3.7M is displayed on all.
The truck was not even close to fitting under.
Edited by VicHockeyFan, 30 December 2017 - 02:01 PM.
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#5556
Posted 30 December 2017 - 02:32 PM
The signage required to be posted is the lowest point of any and all bridges in the set. So 3.7M is displayed on all.
The truck was not even close to fitting under.
The truck cleared the concrete bridge that was showing 3.7m but hit the second bridge that was also showing 3.7m.
Did the driver know he could make the 3.7m clearance?
Dang, have they recovered the black box so we can clear this up.
#5557
Posted 30 December 2017 - 02:35 PM
The driver does not test his clearance by trying to go under certain bridges, then calibrate from that. He should know his height.
#5558
Posted 30 December 2017 - 02:40 PM
The driver does not test his clearance by trying to go under certain bridges, then calibrate from that. He should know his height.
My guess is that he is under 7 feet in height and he could get a job with amtrak driving trains.
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#5559
Posted 30 December 2017 - 07:02 PM
The truck cleared the concrete bridge that was showing 3.7m but hit the second bridge that was also showing 3.7m.
Did the driver know he could make the 3.7m clearance?
Dang, have they recovered the black box so we can clear this up.
There is nothing to clear up, the lowest point for the underpass is 3.7M, if your vehicle is taller than that you are not going to make it through the entire underpass. It could be 5M clearance in some spots but that doesn't matter, the lowest height is 3.7M so that is what they placard it as.
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#5560
Posted 17 January 2018 - 07:36 PM
Old Island remains closed.
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