[James Bay] Townhomes at Douglas & Superior | Built - completed in 2009
#21
Posted 17 October 2006 - 11:12 AM
#22
Posted 17 October 2006 - 11:17 AM
Bruce Wilkin designed them for Zebra but currently he is working on his own.
-City of Victoria website, 2009
#23
Posted 17 October 2006 - 11:21 AM
#24
Posted 17 October 2006 - 11:36 AM
#25
Posted 22 May 2007 - 12:56 PM
The Developer has built townhomes recently, they are located at Oak bay Ave & Yale in the Oak Bay Village. In my view, they are one of the nicest ones you'll see.
The Developer is fully aware that this proposed use is underbuilding the site, but sees little options for other ideas given the self serving mindset of the few militant NIMBYs and their unending opposition for a more diversified alternative. (You think they might be trying to increase their own property values by limiting supply of any affordable or mid priced homes? They only seem to be ok with stuff that has huge $$$ stickers).
And this same developer proposed the 8-stories, which would have had an affordability component, but strictly because JBNEA and their ilk were letting him know it would be a tough battle, he settled on a design which will allow him to build relatively unhindered, expediently, and more profitabily.
Due to structural & mechanical requirements, costs significantly rise after 8 stories, and a building is profitable (barely) at 12 stories. Thus, not many buildings are built in between 9-11 stories. He had wanted to go 12 to 14 stories originally as that would have been the best use of the site, and best for the city in the long run. Alas, you now get what JBNEA says you can have. Sad.
#26
Posted 22 May 2007 - 04:03 PM
#27
Posted 23 May 2007 - 12:50 PM
Due to structural & mechanical requirements, costs significantly rise after 8 stories, and a building is profitable (barely) at 12 stories. Thus, not many buildings are built in between 9-11 stories. He had wanted to go 12 to 14 stories originally as that would have been the best use of the site, and best for the city in the long run.
Hrmm thats really interesting, pieces of information like that should be saved and collected for a front page story - it would be interesting to understand the affordability of different heights - as well as at what point it is economical to go for stronger, longer lasting and higher quality materials and structures.
Oscar Wilde (1854 - 1900), The Picture of Dorian Gray, 1891
#28
Posted 30 May 2007 - 04:28 PM
#29
Posted 09 August 2007 - 11:21 PM
Also that day will be 1114 Dallas Rd. which I think must be a secondary suite or duplex rezoning?
#30
Posted 11 October 2007 - 08:27 PM
#31
Posted 11 October 2007 - 08:52 PM
The 8 story building that he had proposed for this site was an unadorned straight up curtain wall building which would have been totally inappropriate for such a significant corner...
Can you elaborate on why it would have been inappropriate?
#32
Posted 11 October 2007 - 10:08 PM
2. For a corner like this the dimensions should reflect the buildings around it. In this case there are 2 story buildings to the north, a park to the NE and SE, a one story cottage to the west, and a 3 story school to the south. The proposed townhomes are in scale with the surrounding uses and repeat (though not literally) design elements, lines and detailing in those buildings. The proposed box would not have "answered" the design of the buildings around it and would have been totally out of scale. It would have drawn attention to itself and not contributed to the streetscape.
#33
Posted 12 October 2007 - 12:04 PM
Does South Park School draw attention to itself? It doesn't look like anything else around there. I like the fact that it draws attention to itself. Isn't that what we want a building to do? Every building in old Victoria was designed to draw attention to itself.
Here's a different take on the scale issue:
#34
Posted 12 October 2007 - 01:19 PM
The original proposal for the corner of Superior and Douglas just wasn't right. and it didn't take advantage of it being a corner that is often viewed from the north. The current proposal does make reference to the corner.
#35
Posted 12 October 2007 - 03:00 PM
-City of Victoria website, 2009
#36
Posted 22 January 2008 - 02:46 PM
#37
Posted 04 March 2008 - 05:28 PM
#38
Posted 04 March 2008 - 05:47 PM
#39
Posted 04 March 2008 - 06:10 PM
-City of Victoria website, 2009
#40
Posted 04 March 2008 - 07:45 PM
The Shamrock. The older I get, the more often I'm saying 'I remember when they built that and now they're tearing it down'
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