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#2061 Mike K.

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Posted 20 June 2019 - 05:37 AM

I guess that’s the reaction when even the CBC’s readers have had enough of being told they need to pay their part, but that their part won’t make any difference to global climate.

We won’t even reach the Paris Accord targets Trudeau is such a champion of. What are we doing?

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Posted 20 June 2019 - 09:18 AM

I guess that’s the reaction when even the CBC’s readers have had enough of being told they need to pay their part, but that their part won’t make any difference to global climate.

We won’t even reach the Paris Accord targets Trudeau is such a champion of. What are we doing?

We need to reject this notion that increasing taxes and having everything cost more money is some sort of solution. Real action is getting our recycling programs actually working, reviewing our forest management policies to insure a healthy balance between multiple industries like finishing, recreation, logging, other resource extraction, tourism, and general sustaining of nature. Step one an immediate moratorium on clear cut logging of old growth and an immediate reduction of chemical spraying and putting those policies under review in reference to the possibility of using broad leaf trees in a phase one resource allocation plan. 


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#2063 jasmineshinga

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Posted 20 June 2019 - 10:17 AM

For those interested: http://publications....-2-2019-eng.pdf

 

Government think tank comes back with a pile of recommendations to grow Canada's economy and profit by the climate change/environmental shift. Financial focus.


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#2064 lanforod

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Posted 20 June 2019 - 10:35 AM

I wish the CPC had produced some numbers, expected results etc. along with their plan, but overall, I like it better than Trudeau's carbon tax. 

https://www.huffingt...4b06ad4d25acb86


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#2065 rjag

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Posted 20 June 2019 - 12:18 PM

It’s more than Trudeau released this far out prior to the last election.

I like what Scheer is saying, basically let’s look at the Macro level large scale emissions and set targets with financial costs while also provide encouragement and incentives not taxation for the micro level.

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#2066 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 23 June 2019 - 02:02 PM

Like much of the rest of the world, Canada is on a quest to reduce emissions of greenhouse gases and limit the catastrophic effects of climate change.

Under the 2015 Paris climate accord, Canada’s plan calls for a significant reduction in this country’s carbon emissions by 2030 — 30 per cent below 2005 levels. But the government has already acknowledged the country is likely to miss that target.

 


#2067 LJ

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Posted 23 June 2019 - 07:33 PM

No kidding - no country is going to meet their target - Climate Emergency!!!!!

 

https://business.fin...es-no-emergency


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Posted 24 June 2019 - 03:46 AM

The country's top military commander says Canada's Armed Forces are being pushed to the limit responding to an increasing number of climate-related events such as floods and fires.

In 2016 the military responded to only one climate disaster, the wildfire in Fort McMurray. But that number jumped to six deployments in each of the following two years.

 

 

oh boy.  the cbc is really going all in on this junk.

 

https://www.cbc.ca/n...ef June 24 2019



#2069 Benezet

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Posted 24 June 2019 - 06:28 AM

oh boy. the cbc is really going all in on this junk.

https://www.cbc.ca/n...ef June 24 2019


But, the article is based on what General Vance says.

#2070 Mike K.

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Posted 24 June 2019 - 06:38 AM

Indeed it is.

 

But compare the general's words with the CBC's description of the general's words.

 

CBC: The country's top military commander says Canada's Armed Forces are being pushed to the limit responding to an increasing number of climate-related events such as floods and fires.

 

Vance: "Our force structure right now, I would say, is probably too small to be able to deal with all of the tasks," Vance said.

 

 

CBC: Vance said deploying them to help with climate-related events can put a significant burden on individual soldiers and take them away from family life.

 

Vance: "If you think of the average year in the life of a soldier, they might be away six months doing an operation outside of Canada, come home, during that reconstitution period — the period of time that they're with their family, and sort of getting back into swing of things back home — they could be called out again in their thousands to be dealing with the effects of climate change," he said.

 

 

Notice the pattern?

 

"Pushed to the limit" vs. "probably too small."

 

"Significant burden" vs. "could be called out again."

 

And so on.

 

The CBC is writing a thriller, it looks like, and not reporting on the basic premise of Vance's words, which boil down to Canadian Forces needing additional training if they are to be counted on to assist domestic crews with emergency situations. Sounds about right.


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#2071 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 24 June 2019 - 06:40 AM

general says his military is being stretched by being called out so much. it does not explain properly why it’s being called out so much other than “climate emergency”. it’s a garbage article.

#2072 Mike K.

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Posted 24 June 2019 - 06:57 AM

As with most news articles, the comments are the best part:
 

Tonight on the National: Scientists are now confirming that Napoleon's defeat at Waterloo can be directly attributed to climate change.
 

"It was simply too cold & they froze", said a leading French historian, working in conjunction with other EU climatologists.

 

Now Germany is looking at a similar, startling, climate change-induced theory, hoping to explain their loss at Stalingrad in 1943.

 


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#2073 Mike K.

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Posted 24 June 2019 - 07:00 AM

And another:

Harry Sanders: A quick history of Calgary floods:

The very worst one is 1879, so the fort is here, not much settlement, though, so not a whole lot of impact," says Sanders.

That flood was not measured, but by all accounts it's the most intense flooding to have hit the city, he says.

"Next comes 1897, which has yet to be exceeded. The second worst flood that we've had," says Sanders.

Major historic floods
1879
1897
1902
1915
1929
1932


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#2074 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 24 June 2019 - 07:21 AM

bear eats dog. climate change is blamed in article despite any evidence or explanation of the link in the article:


It’s an unusual situation in the Alberni Valley. There are now two recent cases of bears killing a dog. And while it’s not entirely clear why some say the drought may be a factor.

https://www.cheknews...-valley-571500/

because why not right? climate change is causing just about everything now. just add unusual bear behaviour to the list.

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#2075 rjag

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Posted 24 June 2019 - 07:25 AM

Seriously getting pi$$ed at all the chicken little crap...hows the Marshall Islands evacuation going? All the Glaciers gone in the Himalayas?

 

I guess the climate ninnies can blame the Ross Bay cemetery seawall having to be built due to climate change in 1909 as well


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#2076 Mike K.

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Posted 24 June 2019 - 07:37 AM

The death of the boy at Camp Barnard has been blamed on climate change as well.


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#2077 rjag

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Posted 24 June 2019 - 07:39 AM

The death of the boy at Camp Barnard has been blamed on climate change as well.

 

Its a very sad situation that happened, but trees age and stress and fall and have done so since time immemorial 



#2078 Mike K.

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Posted 24 June 2019 - 07:44 AM

I found the CBC version of the article:

Severe drought on southern Vancouver has stressed native flora, scientists say, which is raising concerns about the dangers of walking through coastal forests as climate change rapidly erodes the ability of root networks to withstand abnormal soil conditions.

 

"Its a very sad situation that happened, but trees age and stress and fall and have done so since time immemorial," said Dr. LevelHeadedGuy.

 

Although LevelHeadedGuy says falling trees are "an obvious part of a tree's life," British Columbians should remain vigilant and exercise extreme caution when travelling through a forest or standing near trees during periods of increased climate change-related weather activity.


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Posted 24 June 2019 - 09:54 AM

As with most news articles, the comments are the best part:
 

Weird, because Waterloo happened in June and the weather issue was rain.

He must be thinking of the invasion of Russia in 1812.


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#2080 rjag

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Posted 24 June 2019 - 12:13 PM

https://www.forbes.c...o/#2abe59d4ea2b

 

With Germany as inspiration, the United Nations and World Bank poured billions into renewables like wind, solar, and hydro in developing nations like Kenya.

But then, last year, Germany was forced to acknowledge that it had to delay its phase-out of coal, and would not meet its 2020 greenhouse gas reduction commitments. It announced plans to bulldoze an ancient church and forest in order to get at the coal underneath it.

 



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