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#661 spanky123

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Posted 25 July 2022 - 08:44 AM

Have a friend who is working on security for the Pope's visit and he says it is a complete (but organized) zoo. Lots of protest groups including the 'truckers', lots of RCMP, lots of snipers and special ops forces and every movement of the Pope is equivalent to its own mini-exercise. 


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#662 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 28 July 2022 - 03:11 PM

CBC is pretty unreadable while the Pope is here. Hope he just goes home soon.

Why so much attention on this religious leader?

I bet Buddha’s visit would get less media attention.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 28 July 2022 - 03:12 PM.


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Posted 28 July 2022 - 03:43 PM

CBC seems to be upset when the Pope doesn't apologize every time he speaks. He's not Trudeau.
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Posted 28 July 2022 - 04:20 PM

CBC is pretty unreadable...


Fixed that for you

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Posted 28 July 2022 - 04:54 PM

CBC is pretty unreadable 



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Posted 28 July 2022 - 04:54 PM

haha


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Posted 29 July 2022 - 06:41 AM

B.C. Ferries and the Snuneymuxw First Nation say they've entered into a historic formal agreement recognizing the nation's treaty rights, that will guide the ferry company's business decisions in Snuneymuxw territory in Nanaimo, on Vancouver Island.

https://www.cbc.ca/n...ement-1.6535807

 



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Posted 29 July 2022 - 08:15 AM

^ Partnership = money?!



#669 LJ

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Posted 29 July 2022 - 07:58 PM

I'm indigenous - pay me.


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Posted 31 July 2022 - 07:19 AM

Well… we are paying for the pope’s visit. $35 million I hear. I’m sure the Vatican could afford to pay his way. That’s a much bigger outrage.

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Posted 31 July 2022 - 07:20 AM

I wonder if he downloaded the ArriveCAN app?
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Posted 21 August 2022 - 07:06 AM

Canada agreed to "forever discharge" Catholic entities from their promise to raise $25 million for residential school survivors and also picked up their legal bill, a final release document shows.
 
The Canadian Press obtained a signed copy of the 2015 agreement through federal access-to-information laws, marking what appears to be the first time the document has been widely publicized.
 
"That's a very, very important set of records," said Ry Moran, an associate librarian at the University of Victoria and founding director of the National Centre for Truth and Reconciliation.
 
"Like all questions around accountability, the question is, 'Who made the decision? How was that decision made? Who ultimately signed off on this?'"
 
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The residential schools settlement obligated the 48 Catholic entities involved to pay $79 million, which was broken into three parts, including making "best efforts" to raise $25 million for residential school survivors.
 
There was a disagreement between Ottawa and the Catholic entities about one part of their obligations.
 
At issue was whether lawyers for both sides had struck a deal freeing the church groups from all their financial commitments — including the $25 million for survivors — in exchange for a payment of $1.2 million, or only had an agreement covering a more narrow part of their financial responsibilities.
 
Ultimately, Justice Neil Gabrielson ruled the agreement covered all the church's financial commitments, allowing Catholic entities to walk away from their fundraising promise to survivors after raising less than $4 million.
 
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By Oct. 30, 2015, a final agreement was signed by the former deputy minister in what had been called Aboriginal and Northern Affairs Canada, freeing the Catholic entities of their financial obligations.
 
"Canada does hereby remise, release and forever discharge the Catholic entities, its directors, officers, shareholders, agents, lawyers, and employees, of and from all manners of actions, causes of action, suits, debts, dues, accounts, bonds whatsoever against the releasees," it reads.
 
It continues: "Canada further covenants and agrees not directly or indirectly to join, assist, aid, or act in concert in any manner whatsoever with any person or entity in making any financial claim or demand whatsoever against the releasees."

https://www.cbc.ca/n...ising-1.6557533

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Posted 21 August 2022 - 08:46 AM

Why would you choose to live somewhere with no clean water, for 30 years?



Clean drinking water has finally been hooked up to homes on Indian Road in Cowichan Tribes, after residents lived with brown and smelly water for over three decades.

For Bubba Qwulshemut, it marked a big milestone.

He’s lived on the street for 30 years, has never felt safe drinking the water from his home’s taps and says raising his children was a challenge, because they had to bathe, brush their teeth and cook with bottled water all their lives.

https://www.cheknews...tribes-1078852/

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Posted 22 August 2022 - 06:09 AM

Why would you choose to live somewhere with no clean water, for 30 years?

Incredibly low rent, or no rent at all in an otherwise unaffordable location to live (the South Island).

 

Although you could own the physical structure that is a house on a First Nations reserve, you can never own the land.

Because of this, most of the home mortgages on a First Nations Reserve are held by the Band through special CMHC programs, and the occupant (who has to be First Nations) pays a very low rent. All of this is heavily subsidized by the Federal Gov't.

Often, a Band Member will pay no rent or mortgage on a family home ... and the land is provided by the Federal Government through the Indian Act.

So in other words, rather than pay $2500.00 a month for a three bedroom, you can live with dirty water coming out of your taps essentially for free. If your income is low, or non-existent, you literally become obliged to remain living where you're currently living ... dirty water or not.

 

So he likely couldn't afford to move anywhere else, especially if his housing costs were next to nothing in terms of what it would otherwise cost to live around here.

Even if he could afford to live elsewhere, a combination of family ties, social connections, the Indian Act, and the fact that First Nations reserves are, by design, the historical and heredity lands of the occupying First Nations citizens ... often make the concept of moving elsewhere untenable, or impossible.

 

That inability to own the land your home sits on means you can never build any equity in your home and property, and you can never make your own infrastructure improvements (a situation that's a direct result of the Indian Act), and is also a foundational element of many of the issues (like clean water) that First Nations deal with.

 

The take-away though, is that not providing fresh drinking water to a First Nations reserve, when water is available, plentiful and clean, and when providing that water is your legal obligation (the Federal Gov't through the Indian Act), is utterly unacceptable, and in the case of providing First Nation Canadians with clean drinking water in 2022, completely inhuman.


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#675 Mike K.

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Posted 22 August 2022 - 06:30 AM

It’s shocking to me that this is still an issue in our own community. We never heard about this.

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Posted 22 August 2022 - 07:01 AM

^ I think the reality is that very few, if any, FN have not been provided money to fix their drinking water issues.

 

In some cases the money has been spent but on items other than drinking water, in other cases facilities were built but are not being operated properly, while in others the amount provided has been insufficient to address a large problem than expected.  

 

Like most things related to FN, there is no simple answer that applies to everyone.



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Posted 22 August 2022 - 07:21 AM

We provide money for these projects, then leave these communities to oversee the projects?

Isn’t that a guaranteed recipe for failure?

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Posted 22 August 2022 - 07:50 AM

We provide money for these projects, then leave these communities to oversee the projects?

Isn’t that a guaranteed recipe for failure?

 

Depends on the governance structure of the FN. From Macleans.

 

Q: What have been the barriers to making improvements? Why hasn’t all the money that’s been spent made a difference?

A: One of the big issues, in my opinion, is that we don’t recognize First Nations as unique groups of individuals; the issues around water are not the same for each community. As a result, money being spent, for example, to increase training or education about how to operate a water system may work for some communities but not others. Another example [is] geographic location and remoteness: Putting money toward a treatment plant may work for one community, but not another, where it may break all the time because of permafrost.


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Posted 22 August 2022 - 07:56 AM

Incredibly low rent, or no rent at all in an otherwise unaffordable location to live (the South Island).

 

Although you could own the physical structure that is a house on a First Nations reserve, you can never own the land.

Because of this, most of the home mortgages on a First Nations Reserve are held by the Band through special CMHC programs, and the occupant (who has to be First Nations) pays a very low rent. All of this is heavily subsidized by the Federal Gov't.

 

Again this varies from reserve to reserve. Both the Songhees and Twasout FN lease reserve land to non-FN.



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Posted 22 August 2022 - 08:05 AM

A glaring example of this is the number of First Nations communities still dealing with long-term drinking water advisories. While the federal Liberal government pledged in 2015 to end all drinking water advisories by March of this year, 52 long-term advisories were in effect in 33 First Nation communities as of early April.
 
According to Gale, Indigenous communities are increasingly taking matters into their own hands in leading and partnering in infrastructure projects. However, those projects tend to be small in size, typically valued at less than $25 million.
 
For much larger projects of the type that can substantially move the needle on the infrastructure gap, communities face several barriers, not the least of which is building the capacity to take on large projects, and to secure funding at rates which can provide a meaningful return.
 
“Access to competitively priced equity capital is a major challenge. Most Indigenous communities have limited no risk capital so this means that our down payments on a project have to be financed,” said Gale. She gave the example of a project that would have returned nine per cent on its investment, but where the interest costs to borrow funds would have been between 12 per cent to 15 per cent.
 
“Our members had to give up their equity interests on the project because we couldn't find alternatives,” she said.
 
One reason why financing costs are so high in First Nation communities is that properties on reserves are considered Crown land, and so cannot be used as collateral for a loan.
 
Added to this are the issues of the extensive amount of due diligence and feasibility work that needs to be done even before a project can be approved, which carries a substantial up-front price tag. Funding can be leveraged by several communities grouping together, but this can bring with it other complications, such as cultural and language barriers between nations.

https://www.ctvnews....s-say-1.5402799
 

Why would you choose to live somewhere with no clean water, for 30 years?

for how long have you been beating your wife?



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