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#1361 Nparker

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Posted 03 October 2024 - 06:01 AM

What was the traditional method of emergency communication before colonization?
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#1362 Mike K.

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Posted 03 October 2024 - 06:15 AM

Why would you say that, nparker? No need to be rude.

There are telephone lines connecting Dididaht, I thought? I’ve used the phone at the gas station before.

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#1363 Nparker

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Posted 03 October 2024 - 06:16 AM

It's not rude, it's a legitimate question.

#1364 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 03 October 2024 - 06:18 AM

The article makes no mention of landlines. But I assume they are available.

#1365 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 03 October 2024 - 06:20 AM

Instead of meeting the ambulance why not mark streets with names and homes with numbers? It works elsewhere.

#1366 Blair M.

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Posted 03 October 2024 - 08:55 AM

The Ditidaht emergency communications issue sounds like a winning match with StarLink. 

A little coordination with the Cowichan Lake RCMP, and some public and private StarLink installations in the village could instantly remedy the emergency communications issue as identified by the village.

 

A StarLink set-up costs around $300.00, and users enjoy instant, high-speed video and voice communications anywhere in the world (including the on-duty Cowichan Lake RCMP dispatcher).



#1367 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 13 December 2024 - 01:26 AM

North Island First Nation files claim against province seeking aboriginal title, compensation

 

 

Mowachaht/Muchalaht First Nation is seeking aboriginal title to about 430,000 hectares of land in the Gold River-Tahsis area, and compensation for forestry operations on its traditional lands


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Posted 13 December 2024 - 05:58 AM

Adam Olsen is beginning a new life after politics, but he’ll still be working for his home.

 

The former North Saanich and the Islands Green Party MLA is stepping into a new role as the lead negotiator for W̱JOȽEȽP’ (Tsartlip) First Nation, where he has called home for his whole life.

 

Olsen, who was first elected to the B.C. Legislature in 2017, will now lead negotiations on behalf of W̱JOȽEȽP’.

 

https://www.vicnews....-nation-7704183


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Posted 17 December 2024 - 02:55 AM

The former Green Party MLA for Saanich North and the Islands is now the lead negotiator for the Tsartlip First Nation, where he has lived all his life.

 

In his new role, Adam Olsen will steer his nation’s negotiations with the federal, provincial, regional and local governments, B.C. Ferries and other entities.

 

“I am honoured to be in this role and to work on behalf of this beautiful community to advance our interests and rights,” said Olsen, who announced in June he would not seek re-election in the fall provincial election.

 

“We must raise our voices to make change so that we may fulfill our inherent rights as Indigenous people in this province.”

 

 

 

https://www.timescol...sartlip-9965112


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#1370 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 17 December 2024 - 02:57 AM

So these are open-ended, non-stop negotiations?

 

What does BC Ferries owe the nation?

 

What do the rest of us owe them?

 

What "other entities"?


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Posted 17 December 2024 - 07:28 AM

You don’t owe them anything. They have a contract with the Federal Government called the Douglas Treaty. Any organization that holds a contract with the government with that kind of scope would have a lawyer.
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#1372 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 17 December 2024 - 08:25 AM

If I understand it correctly, in Nanaimo at the former Tally Ho site a development was proposed, came close to final approvals, but then the province stepped in and bought the land. Then gave it to the local band. Plus other money. A development is proposed.

Province and the band bought the property, but the province provided $26 of the $28.5M price and threw in another $1 million for demolition and security.

Is the the expected pro-forma for other lands? What is this based on?

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Posted 17 December 2024 - 08:32 AM

^ Usually the band doesn't have any money so they get a loan from a Federal Government backed entity which then quietly forgives it.


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Posted 17 December 2024 - 08:59 AM

OK, fair enough.  But what do we base this policy on?



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Posted 17 December 2024 - 09:54 AM

^ Usually the band doesn't have any money so they get a loan from a Federal Government backed entity which then quietly forgives it.

Do you have receipts for that? 

Douglas established a treaty with them so they have points to make. You don't have to agree with everything but the facts remain the facts. I don't agree with putting the blame on us for instance. But they do have a right by contract. They also had agreements that were dishonored. As in being kicked off of land they were occupying. In many cases treaties being dishonored and rewritten. We aren't talking thousands of years ago either. 

I scanned their objection and it reads like they weren't considered at all...which is a mistake. https://www.nanaimo....e68b591b80c.pdf

 

Maybe the developer shouldn't have been so greedy as to draw such attention to themselves.... They could have considered the community more in general.  Show some respect to the river, make more park along the water front side with some homage to the First Nations and they would have been good probably. I look at this porposal and think it has no consideration. 

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#1376 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 17 December 2024 - 10:05 AM

What policy guidleline directed us to pay the $26M though?

 

Can we read the general policy guidelines?

 

I agree with spanky123, every time we hear about a band "buying" land or property or rights, they never/rarely  use their own money (they mostly have none).  We front it in some way.


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Posted 17 December 2024 - 10:58 AM

Well. I don't think us paying $26 million is necessarily right. I am not saying that. It's government. On both levels. Corruption is my go to answer haha.... I am just saying that there are some facts remaining here. 

 

And we front all government loans. Remember FN is also a government. Just more localized. 

 

The policy guidelines are based on the Douglas Treaties.

"At the time that the Douglas Treaties were made, James Douglas had the leaders sign blank papers and had the text of the treaties written in afterwards (except in the case of the Saalequun Treaty, which was left blank). The language written in by James Douglas after the fact suggests that the signatories sold their land to the Crown completely and forever. While the Indigenous people have disputed this language, the courts have continued to describe the Douglas Treaties as surrendering part of the territories of the signatories. For many years the federal and provincial governments denied that the Douglas Treaties promised treaty rights. However, since the decision of the Supreme Court of Canada in White and Bob (1965), the courts and governments have begun to recognize that the Douglas Treaties committed treaty rights to the signatories and their descendants. The Te’mexw Treaty Association’s late Chief of Negotiations, Wilson Bob, supported the plaintiffs in the case. These rights are constitutionally protected by Section 35 of the Constitution Act, 1982."  

https://douglastreat...a/treaties.html

 

 

All I am trying to do is help y'all reframe the subject with a foundation of reality. I am not excusing any corruption that takes advantage of the woke narrative that surrounds this. 



 



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