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[On the Level]

Is there any indication what is causing the current backup?  They have not built the proper off and on-ramps and given the percentage of traffic turning at this intersection, is it backing up onto highway 1?

 

 

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[Mike K.]

In what direction is the backup?

[Victoria Watcher]

monday (today):

 

7:00  -  20 minutes by car

[Victoria Watcher]

4:55pm - out of town

 

car 20 minutes

bus 33 minutes

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 13 January 2020 - 04:56 PM.

[Mike K.]

Bus might not get you home though, with all of the detours today.

More like bus is ♾

[On the Level]

In what direction is the backup?

 

The morning commute.  I am assuming (perhaps incorrectly) that the slowdown that we saw last week as compared to the week previous was cause by traffic heading into the yet to be completed off ramp towards Mckenzie rather than Tillicum...... 

[Victoria Watcher]

snow day commute report @8am:

 

sooke/goldstream to city hall

 

22 minutes car

31 minutes bus

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 15 January 2020 - 07:59 AM.

[Fairbanks]

So that's all this thread is about now?  Travel times?

[Mike K.]

Makes sense to discuss travel times made possible by improvements to the McKenzie intersection in a discussion thread about the McKenzie Interchange. Where else should it go?

[Ismo07]

So that's all this thread is about now?  Travel times?

 

What else at this point?  Until people start ranting about something else like the landscaping.

[shoeflack]

We all can see that this project has made a considerable difference in travel time. Does the daily reminder of that add anything of benefit at this point?

[Mike K.]

Yes.

 

It establishes a legitimate baseline so that a year from now when it's all said and done nobody can tell us "you just took a pie in the sky reading on one day and determined it's a success!!! Besides, it never ever took 49 minutes to make that journey!!!1! It was like 25!! This project only improved travel time by 4 minutes!!!11!!!!"

 

Believe you me, that's coming. Those who hated the idea of this project from day one and who screamed from the rafters that it would never achieve anything beyond a make-work project won't just go hide in the shadows. 

[shoeflack]

So then why are we measuring that data when the project isn't even finished, why not wait until it has the 60 km/h zone lifted and on/off-ramps completed and we can get real data?

 

I think the multiple weeks of evidence from opening until now is pretty sufficient at this point for the "post-opening but not yet complete" phase of analysis.

[Mike K.]

Because we don't know if officialdom will throw a monkey wrench into this equation before completion, like messing with light timings on feeder roads, strangling access roads by reducing capacity or traffic-calming their way into making the project less efficient.

 

We've had a chance to observe traffic over Xmas, into the New Year, and by the end of January it will be business as usual (lot of CFB Esquimalt's Canadian Forces members are still off). We've also had snow days, etc. Lot of good data here, just roll with it.

[Spy Black]

The project is an undisputed success all around. Nobody can argue that fact with any sort of reasonable language.

 

I know it's kind of hip to hate on government officials these days, but the folks that do the designing and planning of this overpass aren't fools, and at this point in time it's realistic to anticipate that things will only improve greatly down the road, as the feeder roads are cleared of major construction projects (poo pipe), the 60 click construction zone speed limit is removed, and the on and off ramps for McKenzie are fully integrated into the project, completing the whole.

 

"Winner, winner - chicken dinner" as the kids used to say.

 

Although I do tend to agree that endlessly recording transit times at this mid-stage of the project, what with all the hindrances still slowing down traffic, might cause the data currently being collected to ultimately prove to be of questionable value?

[lanforod]

That data would be better collected in a spreadsheet rather than post by post in a forum.

[Victoria Watcher]

should i post the database each time i add new data?

[kxl]

Depends, are the data based on actual trips or simply estimates pulled from Google Maps/Waze?

Edited by kxl, 16 January 2020 - 03:47 PM.

[Victoria Watcher]

google maps.

[Spy Black]

Key point at this juncture might be that the data posted daily does't really do anybody any real good - unless I'm missing something completely?