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[Trans Canada Highway] McKenzie Interchange - McKenzie Avenue, Admirals Road and TCH


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#1721 Bingo

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 06:47 AM

Dr. John Helmcken, Vancouver Island's first doctor and later speaker of the British Columbia Legislative Assembly, paid the Hudson's Bay Company $5 per acre for hundreds of acres of land between Esquimalt Harbour and what is now Victoria General Hospital. Land was cleared for Victoria's growth. In 1912, the Island Investment Company bought 80 acres (32 ha) of land below Four Mile Hill, fronting on the harbour, from Dr. Helmcken’s son James. They marketed lots as “View Royal” because of their "royal view", which gave the town its name.

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#1722 Bingo

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 06:56 AM

Map of View Royal showing it's relationship to the Trans-Canada Highway, the E&N Trail and the Craigflower Bridge that connects to the McKenzie Interchange via Admirals Road.

 

http://www.viewroyal...Engineering.pdf



#1723 On the Level

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 09:03 AM

Posted to VV's Facebook page in response to comments on heavy congestion along the TCH and the Old Island Highway's heavily traffic-calmed design:


The Old Island Highway ...is not a highway.

Screech made this mess by turning the old island highway into a parking lot so bad that folks that live there can't get to their homes.

Now he realized he has made a mess....and calls for a regional transportation strategy? What a joke.

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#1724 DustMagnet

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 09:25 AM

Any improvement this morning?



#1725 Bingo

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 10:48 AM

Screech made this mess by turning the old island highway into a parking lot so bad that folks that live there can't get to their homes.

Now he realized he has made a mess....and calls for a regional transportation strategy? What a joke.

 

I have friends that live in View Royal and they say the traffic is no worse than anywhere else in the area during the commute while the interchange is being built.

The traffic calming is similar to Craigflower Road which becomes the old Island Highway at Admirals Road.



#1726 On the Level

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 10:57 AM

I have friends that live in View Royal and they say the traffic is no worse than anywhere else in the area during the commute while the interchange is being built.
The traffic calming is similar to Craigflower Road which becomes the old Island Highway at Admirals Road.


I'm talking about the last few years and not just during construction.

The change to the old island highway is a classic case of not understanding the ramifications of what you are doing.
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Posted 09 November 2018 - 11:11 AM

I'm talking about the last few years and not just during construction.

The change to the old island highway is a classic case of not understanding the ramifications of what you are doing.

 

My friends have lived in View Royal for 10 years and they happen to like the changes to roads like Helmcken with it's traffic calming and two roundabouts that keep traffic flowing smoothly.

I think their new Fire Hall is better than most in the CRD. The folks must think mayor David Screech is doing a good job because he recently won by acclamation. 


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#1728 Jason-L

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 11:56 AM

I'm talking about the last few years and not just during construction.

The change to the old island highway is a classic case of not understanding the ramifications of what you are doing.

Oh they very much understood the ramifications of what they were doing.

 

View Royal as a neighbourhood has seen a great deal of improvement since becoming it's own thing, for it's residents.  Unfortunately, those improvements haven't been so great for folks moving through the place.



#1729 Mike K.

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 12:00 PM

Just to note, it was Mayor Graham Hill who had initiated the traffic calming measures. Screech is expanding on them.


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#1730 Nparker

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 12:11 PM

...Unfortunately, those improvements haven't been so great for folks moving through the place.

And since View Royal doesn't sit in isolation from the rest of the region, they will just have to live with the consequences of people moving through their municipality at a snail's pace.



#1731 nagel

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 12:16 PM

And since View Royal doesn't sit in isolation from the rest of the region, they will just have to live with the consequences of people moving through their municipality at a snail's pace.

That's actually an improvement over people moving through your municipality too quickly.



#1732 Nparker

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 12:17 PM

That's actually an improvement over people moving through your municipality too quickly.

That's one opinion.


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#1733 PraiseKek

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 12:48 PM

I'm talking about the last few years and not just during construction.

The change to the old island highway is a classic case of not understanding the ramifications of what you are doing.

I'm pretty sure that was has happened was the plan. That's the plan for every single one of these traffic calming measures. Create absolute gridlock. They don't hide it.

 

Not sure how not being able to move through view royal helps the residents but hey whatever right?


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#1734 Mike K.

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 02:56 PM

I wasn't aware of this, but Adam Stirling said on today's roundtable that View Royal has tried to have the name of the Old Island Highway west of Admirals and east of the strip changed to Craigflower Way or Craigflower Parkway, or something along those lines, to get rid of the word 'highway.'

 

Now if that doesn't illustrate the desire to constrict traffic along the thoroughfare...


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#1735 nagel

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 03:09 PM

I wasn't aware of this, but Adam Stirling said on today's roundtable that View Royal has tried to have the name of the Old Island Highway west of Admirals and east of the strip changed to Craigflower Way or Craigflower Parkway, or something along those lines, to get rid of the word 'highway.'

 

Now if that doesn't illustrate the desire to constrict traffic along the thoroughfare...

They should change the name.  There's nothing about it that resembles a highway.


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#1736 Mike K.

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 03:21 PM

It's not what it resembles (most recently) that matters, it's its designation as a primary route that matters.


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Posted 09 November 2018 - 04:12 PM

It's not what it resembles (most recently) that matters, it's its designation as a primary route that matters.

 

Yup lets congest traffic in our municipality so that it will push traffic elsewhere....5 years later...our streets are so congested and our residents are trapped because traffic flow is restricted...same things about to happen on Shelbourne



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Posted 09 November 2018 - 04:20 PM

Mayor Screech is now pushing for a regional transportation plan because his muni's residents can't move about during peak periods.


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#1739 Bingo

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 04:26 PM

It's not what it resembles (most recently) that matters, it's its designation as a primary route that matters.

 

The old Island Highway was the ONLY primary route before the Trans-Canada was built, but back in those days Langford consisted of a gas station and an active E&N railway service. 

Time to bring back the rail service, at least between Langford and Victoria.


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#1740 Nparker

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 04:27 PM

Message to View Royal: You made your traffic-calmed bed, now lie in it.


Edited by Nparker, 10 November 2018 - 11:32 AM.

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