Bike lanes In Victoria
#21
Posted 18 October 2006 - 09:58 PM
Actually a lot of intersections have those blocked off blue spaces for the cyclist to move right up to the front of the lane, it's where you should be as a cyclist so you're most visible and you enter the intersection safely.
I'm in total agreement of a huge gas tax or a modest increase in property taxes in exchange for free transit in the city. Currently transit is already subsidized by about 40% or so, why not pick up the rest? Surely in the long run it will cost us less than the cost involved in building more highways, overpasses, not to mention the harmful effects of car exhaust. As it stands now, the highways for vehicles are heavily subsidized by taxpayers.
Of course this is simplistic view, and there is a lot to work out, such as the effect it would have on the trucking sector, taxis, etc, etc. but something could be worked out, and we need to start taking bold steps instead of sticking with a system that is currently not working.
#22
Posted 18 October 2006 - 10:22 PM
Idiots are idiots whether they are behind a wheel or a handlebar.
Haha, that is so true!
I think those blue painted areas are to remind drivers making a right turn to shoulder check for cyclists, I know I have seen some close calls at Blanshard and Finlayson.
#23
Posted 18 October 2006 - 10:31 PM
#24
Posted 18 October 2006 - 10:37 PM
#25
Posted 18 October 2006 - 10:43 PM
#26
Posted 19 October 2006 - 08:50 AM
I have always had this theory that the way you drive reflects your personality. If you're selfish, you drive selfishly, if you're aggressive, you drive aggressively. And of course this would apply to people on bikes as well.
#27
Posted 19 October 2006 - 09:16 AM
Know it all.
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#28
Posted 19 October 2006 - 09:57 AM
I do not agree that the balance between the expense on cyclists is out of whack with the amount of riders though. I am sure if you add up all the money spent on road maintenance/ improvement over the last 10 years and then compare that to all the money on cycling infrastructure, the amount on car oriented roads would surpass the percentage of drivers by a long shot.
Also I think that this thread is in the wrong lane it needs to be moved to infrastructure
#29
Posted 19 October 2006 - 09:55 PM
I'd say that about 25-35% of bike riders give us a bad name, but I also give that same percentage to automobile drivers. Idiots are idiots whether they are behind a wheel or a handlebar.
Actually a lot of intersections have those blocked off blue spaces for the cyclist to move right up to the front of the lane, it's where you should be as a cyclist so you're most visible and you enter the intersection safely.
I'm in total agreement of a huge gas tax or a modest increase in property taxes in exchange for free transit in the city. Currently transit is already subsidized by about 40% or so, why not pick up the rest? Surely in the long run it will cost us less than the cost involved in building more highways, overpasses, not to mention the harmful effects of car exhaust. As it stands now, the highways for vehicles are heavily subsidized by taxpayers.
Of course this is simplistic view, and there is a lot to work out, such as the effect it would have on the trucking sector, taxis, etc, etc. but something could be worked out, and we need to start taking bold steps instead of sticking with a system that is currently not working.
Of course you are my fellow communist - for the simple reason you expect others to pay your way.
You types are a dime a dozen - carry on.
JK
Ps - FY
#30
Posted 19 October 2006 - 09:58 PM
EDIT: ^you got it now
#31
Posted 19 October 2006 - 10:03 PM
Your view is welcome here but abrasiveness not so much.
Know it all.
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#32
Posted 19 October 2006 - 10:03 PM
If you live in Victoria/Oak Bay/Vic West/ Esquimalt/ Southern Saanich and you complain about traffic, you been living here too long.
If you live outside those boundaries and you complain about it, you should just accept traffic as you would death and taxes...or taxies if you've had a few too many.
Perfect example of the idiot F* attitude in this town that has no vision for the future.
Too GD funny.
#33
Posted 19 October 2006 - 10:12 PM
Of course you are my fellow communist - for the simple reason you expect others to pay your way.
You types are a dime a dozen - carry on.
JK
Ps - FY
Sorry, but what does the "FY" refer to? I expect others to pay my way? Hmm..well, if motorists had to pay the real cost of operating a vehicle (all highway construction, maintenance costs, health care costs associated with accidents, not to mention from car pollution, etc, etc.) you my friend would be walking, not driving.
#34
Posted 19 October 2006 - 10:14 PM
If you live in Victoria/Oak Bay/Vic West/ Esquimalt/ Southern Saanich and you complain about traffic, you been living here too long.
If you live outside those boundaries and you complain about it, you should just accept traffic as you would death and taxes...or taxies if you've had a few too many.
Perfect example of the idiot F* attitude in this town that has no vision for the future.
Too GD funny.
I believe you're confidence, Derf, is inaccurate.
Your vision, JLK, is to try and get and rise out of people. This only works with stupid people. How can I blame you for assuming that I am one of them when you clearly choose to hang around with stupid people on a daily basis.
#35
Posted 19 October 2006 - 10:29 PM
#36
Posted 19 October 2006 - 10:36 PM
http://www.gvcc.bc.c...bikelanes.shtml
-City of Victoria website, 2009
#37
Posted 20 October 2006 - 08:17 AM
I was at the intersection of Yates and Vancouver...as some of you know Yates has a bike lane...I was not in the bike lane (on the far right hand side of the road) as I was turning left onto Vancouver. A cabbie pulled up beside me and started hasseling me about not being in the bike lane. I politely told him that I was turning left, he continued to berate stupid bikers who don't use the bike lanes...I repeated, "but I'm turning left, I can't turn left in front of traffic from the right hand side of the road now can I"...long story short, light turns green and I go out to turn left only to have the cabbie very aggressively cut me off as he too turned left; much to the horror of his passangers.
Anyway, what's my point? Bike lanes don't slove the problem when there are just plain stupid people out there. The problem tends more to be the moronic individuals out there...whether they are on a bike or in a car...that feel they are some how above the other.
I just want to be able to share the road safely. Bikers and Drivers need to be better educated to see this happen.
Again, just my two cents worth.
#38
Posted 20 October 2006 - 08:55 AM
#39
Posted 20 October 2006 - 07:12 PM
He said, "Yeah, well, it can be bad, but it is only bad if you think of Victoria as a small town. If you think of Victoria as a larger town, it has the best traffic of them all."
Ever since then I've seen it through a different light.
Downtown is a freakin' nightmare for bikers, though.
Ben
#40
Posted 20 October 2006 - 08:37 PM
And, as you note, perception is relative. Personally I'd say that downtown is actually one of the better places for biking on busy streets due to the slow traffic. Compare to Shelbourne, Quadra or Fort which are not only tight, but also have rushing traffic.
This photo cracks me up. Has the engineer never ridden a bike?
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