Shelbourne Corridor | Shelbourne Valley Action Plan
#21
Posted 14 April 2010 - 11:37 AM
I often wonder what it would be like if all of Shelbourne was one lane of traffic each way for its entire stretch. I can't see how this would be a problem as long as every left turn had its own dedicated lane. There would be a need for a few dedicated right turn lanes as well. This would free up plenty of space for a bike lane.
#22
Posted 14 April 2010 - 12:41 PM
#23
Posted 14 April 2010 - 12:48 PM
Can anyone fill me in?
#24
Posted 14 April 2010 - 02:42 PM
#25
Posted 14 April 2010 - 02:58 PM
The new grassy areas will give some of the trees along the street a bit of breathing room.
-City of Victoria website, 2009
#26
Posted 14 April 2010 - 03:23 PM
Since they are looking 20-30 years ahead, if there is enough density created, the street would potentially make sense for rail based rapid transit. University Heights as the CRD's Metrotown
#27
Posted 15 April 2010 - 10:37 AM
that is a cool ideaSince they are looking 20-30 years ahead, if there is enough density created, the street would potentially make sense for rail based rapid transit. University Heights as the CRD's Metrotown
#28
Posted 15 April 2010 - 07:00 PM
Since they are looking 20-30 years ahead, if there is enough density created, the street would potentially make sense for rail based rapid transit. University Heights as the CRD's Metrotown
Interesting idea, but wrong location. Burnside is the likely candidate for that sort of development.
#29
Posted 16 April 2010 - 08:14 AM
UVic spawns a lot of start businesses, but there is no close location for offices. The University will also eventually need to move off campus for more and more things as they run out of space for more buildings. Note that the alumni services is already off campus.
UVic also spawns a need for rentals and condos that are not being supplied at the moment.
#30
Posted 17 April 2010 - 06:15 PM
#31
Posted 26 April 2010 - 02:11 PM
Victoria is beginning to have a traffic problem. The solution is not more lanes or more arterials, or separating the bikes/people routes from the car routes.
Shelbourne should be immediately reduced to 2 vehicular lanes (with the possible inclusion of dedicated bus lane(s)), have 2 physically-separated bike-lanes added, have its sidewalks widened, and look to the future idea of LRT.
It will be madness for about 2 weeks, and then, miraculously, traffic will be way down, walking, biking, and busing will be way up.
Better environmentally, economically, socially, culturally, psychologically.
Plant more street trees, eliminate front setback parking, and then, in time, increase the densities and reduce parking of those horrible strip malls, and Bob's your uncle.
(A blog series on the topic can be found at makevictoriabetter.com)
They need to start now and not study this for 10 years before making some decisions. Bike lanes need to go in. This street is not a highway. It needs to become a main street linking 3-4 suburban centres... not a bunch of crappy malls.
#32
Posted 26 April 2010 - 03:08 PM
Its not like Shelbourne is even very busy right now. A few motorheads would complain for a few weeks and then no one will remember it being any other way. Despite all the protests, Fort is still just as quick a way to go as it ever was with 4 lanes.
#33
Posted 26 April 2010 - 03:39 PM
Shelbourne should be immediately reduced to 2 vehicular lanes (with the possible inclusion of dedicated bus lane(s)), have 2 physically-separated bike-lanes added, have its sidewalks widened, and look to the future idea of LRT.
It will be madness for about 2 weeks, and then, miraculously, traffic will be way down, walking, biking, and busing will be way up.
The traffic may reduce, but as with water flowing through a pipe it still needs to go somewhere, so reduce shelbourne to 1 lane each way and watch Cedar Hill and Richmond and Foul Bay increase, not to mention all the money that will be spent on closing side streets.
I dont have a problem with reducing to single lane but there are certain streets that need to remain as arterial roads while others could be considered for bike lanes etc. Why not put bike lanes on Richmond and Cedar Hill Rds? Make cedar Hill 1 way and take the other lane for parking and bikes....just a thought.
#34
Posted 26 April 2010 - 04:57 PM
#35
Posted 26 April 2010 - 05:02 PM
However, the idea is that even if it were clogged, people would choose other ways to travel than cars.
Cedar Hill and Richmond are both quite narrow and hilly and there is no commerce on either. There is already a bike route up Dean for Camosun and UVic, so there really isn't any need at Richmond.
#36
Posted 26 April 2010 - 06:43 PM
#37
Posted 27 April 2010 - 11:25 AM
As it is now, traffic must weave into the left lane to avoid cyclists then back into the right lane to avoid those turning left onto collector streets. Dedicated bike lanes and and left turn pullouts will allow traffic to flow much better, and the motorists recognize this.
#38
Posted 27 April 2010 - 12:58 PM
Shelbourne is actually pretty busy, and dangerous (narrow lanes). Motorists I've talked to who complain about the traffic actually support the two lane proposal.
As it is now, traffic must weave into the left lane to avoid cyclists then back into the right lane to avoid those turning left onto collector streets. Dedicated bike lanes and and left turn pullouts will allow traffic to flow much better, and the motorists recognize this.
I'd more or less agree with this. You can't really give a cyclist adequate room without making sure you veer at least a bit into the centre lane for his/her safety.
#39
Posted 27 April 2010 - 04:18 PM
#40
Posted 27 April 2010 - 06:21 PM
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